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Elnode, the EmacsLisp webserver, nears release

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Re: Elnode, the EmacsLisp webserver, nears release

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Sounds fun. The problem with elisp, though, is that it's (I am told) not a real Lisp. The info tutorial shipped with Emacs doesn't make me suspect otherwise. Perhaps a few neat elnode examples might help.

Sorry, what exactly makes it "not a real lisp"? Maybe that statement is out of date, considering the addition of lexical scoping in Emacs 2.4.

Regardless, it seems like the author is able to build some real things. I know, for example, that you can run a simple file-directory server using elnode.

Re: Elnode, the EmacsLisp webserver, nears release

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post #2

Sounds fun. The problem with elisp, though, is that it's (I am told) not a real Lisp. The info tutorial shipped with Emacs doesn't make me suspect otherwise. Perhaps a few neat elnode examples might help.

There weren't enough in the article?

It is a real lisp. I think the problem you're experiencing is that EmacsLisp has a long history. So some things that have been said were said a loooong time ago and are no longer relevant.

Take a look at the other articles I have on my blog... it's clear EmacsLisp is a modern, usable, language.

Re: Elnode, the EmacsLisp webserver, nears release

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post #2

Sounds fun. The problem with elisp, though, is that it's (I am told) not a real Lisp. The info tutorial shipped with Emacs doesn't make me suspect otherwise. Perhaps a few neat elnode examples might help.

Sorry, what exactly makes it "not a real lisp"? Maybe that statement is out of date, considering the addition of lexical scoping in Emacs 2.4. Regardless, it seems like the author is able to build some real things. I know, for example, that you can run a simple file-directory server using elnode.

And, as I say, a Wiki.

Re: Elnode, the EmacsLisp webserver, nears release

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post #2

Sounds fun. The problem with elisp, though, is that it's (I am told) not a real Lisp. The info tutorial shipped with Emacs doesn't make me suspect otherwise. Perhaps a few neat elnode examples might help.

What is the definition of a real lisp? AFAIK lisp is just a family of computer languages. Elisp certainly isn't the most powerful or full featured but it still seems to have most of the characteristics.

Re: Elnode, the EmacsLisp webserver, nears release

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Just a suggestion, but I think a video tutorial demonstrating the workflow advantages would be incredible for the visibility of the project. I, for one, would like to see how you envisioned elnode as a self-contained productive development and administration environment within emacs.

edit: doh this is planned

Re: Elnode, the EmacsLisp webserver, nears release

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Just a suggestion, but I think a video tutorial demonstrating the workflow advantages would be incredible for the visibility of the project. I, for one, would like to see how you envisioned elnode as a self-contained productive development and administration environment within emacs. edit: doh this is planned

Yes, as I said at the end, that's coming. Hopefully this week. It was important to get Elnode 0.9.9 out first.

Re: Elnode, the EmacsLisp webserver, nears release

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Just a suggestion, but I think a video tutorial demonstrating the workflow advantages would be incredible for the visibility of the project. I, for one, would like to see how you envisioned elnode as a self-contained productive development and administration environment within emacs. edit: doh this is planned

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