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OpenAI releasing new open model in coming months, seeks community feedback

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Re: OpenAI releasing new open model in coming months, seeks community feedback

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What would you like to see in an open-weight model from OpenAI? Explain what you would use it for See... that's kinda the idea behind an open model. I don't have to explain what I would use it for.

The idea that they want to train a new custom model for open release instead of just... giving us GPT-3 already suggests a terrible start. I'm calling it now, this is a strategic counterplay against Google's Gemma models so @sama can sell Tim Cook a "frontier" local model that doesn't compete with anything coherent. A fig leaf for their "Open" identity and a paper tiger for the Apple Intelligence panoply.

OpenAI doesn't believe in Open Source, they merely want it's prestige without committing to it on-principle.

Re: OpenAI releasing new open model in coming months, seeks community feedback

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post #3

What would you like to see in an open-weight model from OpenAI? Explain what you would use it for See... that's kinda the idea behind an open model. I don't have to explain what I would use it for.

The idea that they want to train a new custom model for open release instead of just... giving us GPT-3 already suggests a terrible start. I'm calling it now, this is a strategic counterplay against Google's Gemma models so @sama can sell Tim Cook a "frontier" local model that doesn't compete with anything coherent. A fig leaf for their "Open" identity and a paper tiger for the Apple Intelligence panoply. OpenAI does…

> instead of just... giving us GPT-3

If you're referring to the GPT-3 from 2020, modern open source models five years later are a) better at benchmarks b) much smaller yet still better at said benchmarks c) much, much cheaper/faster due to architectural improvements.

The real hard thing for OpenAI to do is to release an open-weights model that's better/more differentiated than Gemma 3 (at the small scale) or DeepSeek R1 (at the large scale)

Re: OpenAI releasing new open model in coming months, seeks community feedback

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post #4

What would you like to see in an open-weight model from OpenAI? Explain what you would use it for See... that's kinda the idea behind an open model. I don't have to explain what I would use it for.

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The original comment says "their mentality about open-model is wrong, evident from their post". Does not say it's shady! Why to be cynical?

Re: OpenAI releasing new open model in coming months, seeks community feedback

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post #3

What would you like to see in an open-weight model from OpenAI? Explain what you would use it for See... that's kinda the idea behind an open model. I don't have to explain what I would use it for.

The idea that they want to train a new custom model for open release instead of just... giving us GPT-3 already suggests a terrible start. I'm calling it now, this is a strategic counterplay against Google's Gemma models so @sama can sell Tim Cook a "frontier" local model that doesn't compete with anything coherent. A fig leaf for their "Open" identity and a paper tiger for the Apple Intelligence panoply. OpenAI does…

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Re: OpenAI releasing new open model in coming months, seeks community feedback

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post #4

What would you like to see in an open-weight model from OpenAI? Explain what you would use it for See... that's kinda the idea behind an open model. I don't have to explain what I would use it for.

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I'm surprised they expect people to voluntarily undergo that interrogation, for their feedback to then be processed by some LLM.

Re: OpenAI releasing new open model in coming months, seeks community feedback

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This definitely feels like a move made out of desperation, but I admit I'm curious to see what they release.

It's fascinating that some of the best-funded startups of the 2020s are all rushing to commoditize their core technology as quickly as possible. They all seem to have the same business model as the Change Bank from SNL

Re: OpenAI releasing new open model in coming months, seeks community feedback

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What would you like to see in an open-weight model from OpenAI? Explain what you would use it for See... that's kinda the idea behind an open model. I don't have to explain what I would use it for.

Sounds like an open GPT-4o / o1 distill or something… And that they want to know what to go for.
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