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Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

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Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

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Not really clear how moving this project to a private repo is evil.

If you're going to argue it is a "bait and switch", that implies intent to deceive. Do you think that was the plan? Release the first version in 2007 and then wait 18 years and pull the ol switcheroo?

Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

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Not really clear how moving this project to a private repo is evil. If you're going to argue it is a "bait and switch", that implies intent to deceive. Do you think that was the plan? Release the first version in 2007 and then wait 18 years and pull the ol switcheroo?

It's called a bait and switch.

Regarding this parent edit:

> If you're going to argue it is a "bait and switch", that implies intent to deceive. Do you think that was the plan? Release the first version in 2007 and then wait 18 years and pull the ol switcheroo?

Whether they had nefarious intentions from the get go is irrelevant.

Oracle closed the once open source Open Solaris, stating at first that it will merely make real time development private just like Android. This was widely condemned, despite there being no intention to pull off a switcheroo when it was open sourced.

> We will no longer distribute source code for the entirety of the Solaris operating system in real-time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zRN7XLCRhc&t=2482s

Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

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It will remain open source

> This does not mean that Google is making Android a closed-source platform, but rather that the open-source aspect will only be released when a new branch is released to AOSP with those changes, including when new full versions or maintenance releases are finished.

Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

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This headline really is misleading. The source will still be released, it just means that the work leading up to a release will be in private. IMO, there's nothing wrong with that, since it's likely that a lot of the intermediate com mediates are likely just noise.

Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

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Not really clear how moving this project to a private repo is evil. If you're going to argue it is a "bait and switch", that implies intent to deceive. Do you think that was the plan? Release the first version in 2007 and then wait 18 years and pull the ol switcheroo?

Depending on how it's done of course.

If all commits are squashed into a single giant commit for each release to AOSP, then tracking exactly what happened since the last release will become much more difficult.

All of this highlights the ever increasing need for linux phones, with the ability to run android apps in virtual machines. Although, goggle apps already refuse to operate in some of these environments, and I'm sure API update requirements will increase the goggle play API dependency.

For anyone interested in freedom of communication, this is a significant development. (this is different from freedom dollars, where the one with the dollars gets the freedom)

Goggle will continue to exert ever increasing restrictions and surveillance on communication via android for one simple reason: because they can...

Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

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>This does not mean that Google is making Android a closed-source platform, but rather that the open-source aspect will only be released when a new branch is released to AOSP with those changes, including when new full versions or maintenance releases are finished.

I'll believe it when I see it. These days, words are basically meaningless from these large tech companies. Actions are what matter.

at the very least, I'm not convinced this internal branch and AOSP will be close to feature parity if they do throw some stuff out.

Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

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Not really clear how moving this project to a private repo is evil. If you're going to argue it is a "bait and switch", that implies intent to deceive. Do you think that was the plan? Release the first version in 2007 and then wait 18 years and pull the ol switcheroo?

This isn't some random project nobody cares about, it's the most widely used operating system in the world.

Gating access to their main branch behind a GMS license was already extremely evil, this is just adding insult to injury for Android fork maintainers.

Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

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Not really clear how moving this project to a private repo is evil. If you're going to argue it is a "bait and switch", that implies intent to deceive. Do you think that was the plan? Release the first version in 2007 and then wait 18 years and pull the ol switcheroo?

>Do you think that was the plan? Release the first version in 2007 and then wait 18 years and pull the ol switcheroo?

Sure. Not a long con, but I'm sure some executives were arguing for years, even a decade+ about moving stuff privately. It's an argument every company has at some point regarding its code.

I'm sure those who championed for OS are either gone or have given up, so now this prevails.

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