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Carefully but Purposefully Oxidising Ubuntu

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Re: Carefully but Purposefully Oxidising Ubuntu

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I think more people might adopt this language if there weren't such in-group terminology like "oxidizing", "Rusteceans", pictures of rusty equipment etc.

I still wish for a serious book in the style of K&R or Stroustrup with no pictures, no mentioning of the package manager at all (sometimes it is mentioned in the first chapter!) and interesting code examples.

Re: Carefully but Purposefully Oxidising Ubuntu

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post #3

I think more people might adopt this language if there weren't such in-group terminology like "oxidizing", "Rusteceans", pictures of rusty equipment etc. I still wish for a serious book in the style of K&R or Stroustrup with no pictures, no mentioning of the package manager at all (sometimes it is mentioned in the first chapter!) and interesting code examples.

>I think more people might adopt this language if there weren't such in-group terminology like "oxidizing", "Rusteceans", pictures of rusty equipment etc.

I write Rust and I agree. Hype is the downside of attracting trendiness.

Re: Carefully but Purposefully Oxidising Ubuntu

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post #3

I think more people might adopt this language if there weren't such in-group terminology like "oxidizing", "Rusteceans", pictures of rusty equipment etc. I still wish for a serious book in the style of K&R or Stroustrup with no pictures, no mentioning of the package manager at all (sometimes it is mentioned in the first chapter!) and interesting code examples.

The reason I gravitated to rust is that it wasn't c++.

C++ has too many footguns and too much crap that makes it terrible... I am looking exactly at template compiler output and also cmake.

So, get on board or don't but don't try to make it C++ again.

Re: Carefully but Purposefully Oxidising Ubuntu

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I don't use but do like Rust. It's a step in the right direction. And yet, I'll be happy to stay on Debian with C coreutils...

> These utilities are at the heart of the distribution - and it’s the enhanced resilience and safety that is more easily achieved with Rust ports that are most attractive to me.

What safety issues were found in coreutils in recent memory? I'd be willing to bet that this transition will not solve more problems than it creates.

That said, I'd love for `fd` and `rg` and similar to be included in the standard list-of-things-available-anywhere. It's cool they're now in Debian-stable and don't have to be installed through whatever hacks!

Re: Carefully but Purposefully Oxidising Ubuntu

#10
Ubuntu (via Debian) already had a system for this in `update-alternatives`, which is almost certainly already installed on this person's system.

Would it be possible to toggle coreutils/uutils via that instead of reinventing it? They're both effectively symlinks-managers.

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