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Zelensky says he is ready to negotiate peace

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Re: Zelensky says he is ready to negotiate peace

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Post by immibis »

throwaway48476 wrote: post #5

Everyone is 'for peace' but none of them will say what they will give up for peace. Trump and the peace crowd need to be honest.

On Ukraine's terms, Russia just has to give up its dreams of conquering Ukraine.

On Russia's terms, Ukraine has to give up its existence as an independent country, half its people and most things of value within the country.

Either way, Russia won't get its non-US overseas frozen assets back.

Re: Zelensky says he is ready to negotiate peace

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Post by throwaway48476 »

immibis wrote: post #7
throwaway48476 wrote: post #5

Everyone is 'for peace' but none of them will say what they will give up for peace. Trump and the peace crowd need to be honest.

On Ukraine's terms, Russia just has to give up its dreams of conquering Ukraine. On Russia's terms, Ukraine has to give up its existence as an independent country, half its people and most things of value within the country. Either way, Russia won't get its non-US overseas frozen assets back.

I've heard that Russia is demanding NATO withdraw to 1990 borders.

Re: Zelensky says he is ready to negotiate peace

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Post by bigyabai »

immibis wrote: post #6
DamnYuppie wrote: post #2

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Isn't Zelensky always ready to negotiate peace? The problem is that Russia isn't. Not without so many strings attached that Ukraine actually finds it more advantageous to continue fighting.

Right. We've already negotiated peace in Ukraine, and the issue is that it is not respected by Ukraine's adversaries. "Strong leadership" means lasting peace.

Nobody is going to win a Nobel prize for being a puppet of the Russian Federation. With respect to the Budapest memorandum, this is organized harassment, not negotiations.

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