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Privacy Is Not Dead: Beware the All-or-Nothing Mindset

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Re: Privacy Is Not Dead: Beware the All-or-Nothing Mindset

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>The point here is to reduce harm and improve privacy by small increments at a pace that is realistically sustainable for an average person.

Here's the rub. I buy that privacy is not dead, however free privacy is very limiting. Total privacy remains a complicated pay to play game.

Re: Privacy Is Not Dead: Beware the All-or-Nothing Mindset

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>The point here is to reduce harm and improve privacy by small increments at a pace that is realistically sustainable for an average person. Here's the rub. I buy that privacy is not dead, however free privacy is very limiting. Total privacy remains a complicated pay to play game.

Classic example with theZuck claiming privacy is dead, yet goes off and buys the houses around him so he can have privacy while creating one of the largest privacy invading morally bankrupt companies.

Re: Privacy Is Not Dead: Beware the All-or-Nothing Mindset

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>The point here is to reduce harm and improve privacy by small increments at a pace that is realistically sustainable for an average person. Here's the rub. I buy that privacy is not dead, however free privacy is very limiting. Total privacy remains a complicated pay to play game.

One of the fascinating effects of the EU's GDPR laws passing is that you can see european data get more expensive for data brokers to sell (I don't have sources for this, just something I read somewhere). Ostensibly, you now have a way to compete with different legislatures as to who is doing the best job of protecting their constituents' privacy-just see who's data is most expensive to aggregate/resell.

Re: Privacy Is Not Dead: Beware the All-or-Nothing Mindset

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>The point here is to reduce harm and improve privacy by small increments at a pace that is realistically sustainable for an average person. Here's the rub. I buy that privacy is not dead, however free privacy is very limiting. Total privacy remains a complicated pay to play game.

Is it though? I don't think even rich individuals enjoy good privacy today. It's just that personal embarrassments cease to matter when you're rich and powerful.

Re: Privacy Is Not Dead: Beware the All-or-Nothing Mindset

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I don't trust Privacy Guides. They must have some kind of deal with Brave. They didn't accept Brave and then out of nowhere they start accepting it with the excuse of having a Chromium-based browser.

In their defense, I think it is good to have a more private chromium browser if we’re talking about the subject of accessibility for new folks. Much easier to get them off chrome proper.

Re: Privacy Is Not Dead: Beware the All-or-Nothing Mindset

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>The point here is to reduce harm and improve privacy by small increments at a pace that is realistically sustainable for an average person. Here's the rub. I buy that privacy is not dead, however free privacy is very limiting. Total privacy remains a complicated pay to play game.

One of the fascinating effects of the EU's GDPR laws passing is that you can see european data get more expensive for data brokers to sell (I don't have sources for this, just something I read somewhere). Ostensibly, you now have a way to compete with different legislatures as to who is doing the best job of protecting their constituents' privacy-just see who's data is most expensive to aggregate/resell.

It's hard to discover how much money is being made off selling user data, and I think this only leads to smaller companies trading in user data to disappear, while the larger players can do more with your data behind the scenes. The larger companies having fewer competitors allows them to spend more of their time on finding ways that are "legal" to track users, ones which are technically in compliance with existing laws. Maybe my way of thinking about the situation is different than yours, and I could also be completely wrong. I am just much more pessimistic when it comes to how much value is in user data (especially as AI develops more), to think that larger players won't do anything they can to collect user data by finding loopholes in the law, or allowing themselves to be taken to court because the laws aren't defined well enough.

Re: Privacy Is Not Dead: Beware the All-or-Nothing Mindset

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I don't trust Privacy Guides. They must have some kind of deal with Brave. They didn't accept Brave and then out of nowhere they start accepting it with the excuse of having a Chromium-based browser.

I am somewhere in the middle. If people could see something like Privacy Guides that is trying to be a primary privacy resource, and then look up any advice on another source, it could be useful. People aren't used to challenging something they read when it comes to privacy from a "trusted source", and I think that should be a key part of privacy and security. Try to find other sources, that aren't connected, to back up a claim.

Re: Privacy Is Not Dead: Beware the All-or-Nothing Mindset

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I don't trust Privacy Guides. They must have some kind of deal with Brave. They didn't accept Brave and then out of nowhere they start accepting it with the excuse of having a Chromium-based browser.

Agree. Firefox is the only browser I "trust". It does the best job of respecting the user out of any available option. I am the user and I deserve respect. You are also users, and you deserve respect, too.
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