New junior developers can’t code
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#2This article is just the latest in the long history of lamenting the laziness of the youth
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#3Market forces will take care of it. These people won't get hired or last long if they do. Companies don't need programmers whose only skill is prompt "engineering".
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#4It's like relying on a GPS to go everywhere you need. You will quickly find out you don't know to go anywhere by yourself.
Re: New junior developers can’t code
#5This article is just the latest in the long history of lamenting the laziness of the youth
> all these are idlers whom the Clouds provide a living for, because they sing them in their verses.
The Clouds By Aristophanes Written 419 B.C.E
Re: New junior developers can’t code
#6This article is just the latest in the long history of lamenting the laziness of the youth
I don’t think so.
Being lazy and never developing foundational knowledge is different.
New devs are expected to have experience using AI coding tools. If they’re expected to have that, why wouldn’t they trust it?
If you trust a code generator, why dig deeper?
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#7It's like relying on a GPS to go everywhere you need. You will quickly find out you don't know to go anywhere by yourself.
... and maybe that's OK?
I've been reliant on GPS on my phone for probably over a decade now. I'm probably lost without it. But... I explore way more of the world now! I'll quite happily bounce around to random parts of a city that's completely foreign to me, safe in the knowledge that I'll always be able to find my way back again.
(I don't know if this analogy will hold up for AI-assisted programming - I still think programmers who actually understand the details will be a whole lot useful in the long run over programmers who don't - but I'm definitely not going to ditch my GPS in an attempt to improve my sans-GPS navigation skills.)
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#8Market forces will take care of it. These people won't get hired or last long if they do. Companies don't need programmers whose only skill is prompt "engineering".
The issue comes 5-10 years from now when there’s a serious shortage of senior devs.
I mean… as a senior dev now, I’m not complaining, but it can’t be good for the industry at large.
Re: New junior developers can’t code
#9Market forces will take care of it. These people won't get hired or last long if they do. Companies don't need programmers whose only skill is prompt "engineering".
The issue comes 5-10 years from now when there’s a serious shortage of senior devs. I mean… as a senior dev now, I’m not complaining, but it can’t be good for the industry at large.
People who studied computer science, even on their own, are going to do just fine as long as they don't turn off their brains. I am not losing any sleep over this.
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#10Have you hired junior engineers in question? so you're bad at hiring? what's the post history here? what are you trying to sell? https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=nmn.gl.