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Will Google Search Be the Next to Join Killed by Google?

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Re: Will Google Search Be the Next to Join Killed by Google?

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Post by mouse_ »

It's clear that LLMs are improving faster than search engines are capable of. We live in a world where ChatGPT is now able to count the number of 'r's in "Strawberry", and next year, funding permitting, it may be able to count them in "Raspberry" as well.

As search is mostly a solved problem, this sort of growth is unfeasible, so where does that leave search in a growth economy? We need to keep chasing that dragon.

REMEMBER: We're not here to produce things to be used, but rather things that increase usage!

Re: Will Google Search Be the Next to Join Killed by Google?

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Post by dcdc123 »

Oof where is this guy finding an LLM that is a reliable source of information? Most times when I ask an LLM a question about something or bother to look at the AI results in Google I find a lot of incorrect information and linked sources that do not contain any part of the answer they were cited for.

Re: Will Google Search Be the Next to Join Killed by Google?

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Post by cratermoon »

mouse_ wrote: post #3

It's clear that LLMs are improving faster than search engines are capable of. We live in a world where ChatGPT is now able to count the number of 'r's in "Strawberry", and next year, funding permitting, it may be able to count them in "Raspberry" as well. As search is mostly a solved problem, this sort of growth is unfeasible, so where does that leave search in a growth economy? We need to keep chasing that dragon. R…

> We're not here to produce things to be used, but rather things that increase usage!

That sounds exploitative and dystopian.

Re: Will Google Search Be the Next to Join Killed by Google?

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Post by stankondrat »

dcdc123 wrote: post #4

Oof where is this guy finding an LLM that is a reliable source of information? Most times when I ask an LLM a question about something or bother to look at the AI results in Google I find a lot of incorrect information and linked sources that do not contain any part of the answer they were cited for.

Interesting idea that Google Search will be the backend for ai chats.

Many AI services and crawlers scan sites more intensively than Google Search. I've seen this myself in Google Analytics.

Re: Will Google Search Be the Next to Join Killed by Google?

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Post by stankondrat »

mouse_ wrote: post #3

It's clear that LLMs are improving faster than search engines are capable of. We live in a world where ChatGPT is now able to count the number of 'r's in "Strawberry", and next year, funding permitting, it may be able to count them in "Raspberry" as well. As search is mostly a solved problem, this sort of growth is unfeasible, so where does that leave search in a growth economy? We need to keep chasing that dragon. R…

Google Search seems like a finished product that has been making money for years without much investment in research. AI chat systems, however, are currently spending heavily on research and development, and it's unclear what the final product will look like or how AI will generate revenue in the end.

Re: Will Google Search Be the Next to Join Killed by Google?

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Post by stankondrat »

cratermoon wrote: post #6
mouse_ wrote: post #3

It's clear that LLMs are improving faster than search engines are capable of. We live in a world where ChatGPT is now able to count the number of 'r's in "Strawberry", and next year, funding permitting, it may be able to count them in "Raspberry" as well. As search is mostly a solved problem, this sort of growth is unfeasible, so where does that leave search in a growth economy? We need to keep chasing that dragon. R…

> We're not here to produce things to be used, but rather things that increase usage! That sounds exploitative and dystopian.

> > We're not here to produce things to be used, but rather things that increase usage! > That sounds exploitative and dystopian.

If "things" are considered as content too, TikTok users will use them, even though the videos on TikTok will be generated with AI.

Re: Will Google Search Be the Next to Join Killed by Google?

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Post by nonrandomstring »

cratermoon wrote: post #6
mouse_ wrote: post #3

It's clear that LLMs are improving faster than search engines are capable of. We live in a world where ChatGPT is now able to count the number of 'r's in "Strawberry", and next year, funding permitting, it may be able to count them in "Raspberry" as well. As search is mostly a solved problem, this sort of growth is unfeasible, so where does that leave search in a growth economy? We need to keep chasing that dragon. R…

> We're not here to produce things to be used, but rather things that increase usage! That sounds exploitative and dystopian.

We haven't had anything like a "classical" economy since the second world war. It's not "dystopian" it's just a tragic waste of human and natural resources.

  """ Forget the idea that "spontaneous utilitarian consumer demand"
  drives markets. That mid 20th century 'pull model' passed into the
  era of cynical manufacture where successful businesses care not
  about what people want (let alone need, or just what might sell) so
  much as about what people can be made to want. Genuinely new
  inventions able to create wild, fresh markets, like in the golden
  age of nonlinear physics between 1940 and 1980, no longer
  happen. We've been in an incremental push economy for about 50 years
  now. Western capital economies manufacture demand by influence. We
  once used market research, but surveillance data now fills that need
  to shape markets.  """ - from Chindogu [0]
[0] https://cybershow.uk/blog/posts/chindogu/
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