Visualize Ownership and Lifetimes in Rust
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Re: Visualize Ownership and Lifetimes in Rust
#2How many of those advanced concept in Rust such as borrow checker & lifetime could be avoided as a beginner? If utmost performance is not required (i.e., for mortals dealing with Java/Python/JS on a daily basis) would those lifetime and borrow checker concepts be a hinder to move quick?
I read this article https://corrode.dev/blog/prototyping/ and it seems to address almost all of my concerns when I started learning Rust. I think it could take a beginner a long way until they need to get down to the borrow checker/lifetime. I said I agree with the blog "mostly" because there are situations where you have to interact with 3rd party libraries or APIs dealing with those lifetime. The, you need to know about those concept. If you know a better way to handle this, please let me know.
Re: Visualize Ownership and Lifetimes in Rust
#3Id like a plugin for rustrover.
Re: Visualize Ownership and Lifetimes in Rust
#4How many of those advanced concept in Rust such as borrow checker & lifetime could be avoided as a beginner? If utmost performance is not required (i.e., for mortals dealing with Java/Python/JS on a daily basis) would those lifetime and borrow checker concepts be a hinder to move quick? I read this article https://corrode.dev/blog/prototyping/ and it seems to address almost all of my concerns when I started learning…
Yup, that’s definitely correct in terms of avoiding most of the complexity. The tips in that blog post can apply to third party libraries, but sometimes the complexity of the lifetime can leak past the API boundary in a way you can’t ignore (but often you can).
Re: Visualize Ownership and Lifetimes in Rust
#5How many of those advanced concept in Rust such as borrow checker & lifetime could be avoided as a beginner? If utmost performance is not required (i.e., for mortals dealing with Java/Python/JS on a daily basis) would those lifetime and borrow checker concepts be a hinder to move quick? I read this article https://corrode.dev/blog/prototyping/ and it seems to address almost all of my concerns when I started learning…
> How many of those advanced concept in Rust such as borrow checker & lifetime could be avoided as a beginner?
As a beginner, you can avoid references (&) and simply clone() everything when it gives you trouble. If you start off by writing simple Actix/Axum web services instead of manually multithreaded apps, the problem domain is inherently linear and you'll avoid lifetimes and the borrow checker almost entirely. This lets you feel productive while getting a feel for the rest of the language features.
Don't do this once you learn the ropes of the borrow checker, of course. Once you grok it, the borrow checker is almost second nature.
Re: Visualize Ownership and Lifetimes in Rust
#6Id like a plugin for rustrover.
A family of these plugins would be a true killer app for Rust beginners.
Re: Visualize Ownership and Lifetimes in Rust
#7How many of those advanced concept in Rust such as borrow checker & lifetime could be avoided as a beginner? If utmost performance is not required (i.e., for mortals dealing with Java/Python/JS on a daily basis) would those lifetime and borrow checker concepts be a hinder to move quick? I read this article https://corrode.dev/blog/prototyping/ and it seems to address almost all of my concerns when I started learning…
> How many of those advanced concept in Rust such as borrow checker & lifetime could be avoided as a beginner? As a beginner, you can avoid references (&) and simply clone() everything when it gives you trouble. If you start off by writing simple Actix/Axum web services instead of manually multithreaded apps, the problem domain is inherently linear and you'll avoid lifetimes and the borrow checker almost entirely. Th…
I don’t think the basic usage of references is hard to grok for a beginner. If you aren’t going to mutate data and only access it, then pass a reference. No need for over-complicated semantics when describing it to a new Rust user.
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