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Re: Switching to Linux: Reclaim Your Freedom

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Linux in a nutshell: Just awful in a laptop, meh in a desktop, and first-class as a server.

This comment is unworthy of your user name. The modern experience of Linux is miles ahead of Windows and as good as Mac: https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-4-best-linux-desktops-base...

Re: Switching to Linux: Reclaim Your Freedom

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post #5

Linux in a nutshell: Just awful in a laptop, meh in a desktop, and first-class as a server.

This comment is unworthy of your user name. The modern experience of Linux is miles ahead of Windows and as good as Mac: https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-4-best-linux-desktops-base...

It seems like the perception that MacOS and Windows are miles apart in quality stems from the two ends of the horseshoe theory refusing to admit they're next-door neighbors.

Re: Switching to Linux: Reclaim Your Freedom

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post #5

Linux in a nutshell: Just awful in a laptop, meh in a desktop, and first-class as a server.

This comment is unworthy of your user name. The modern experience of Linux is miles ahead of Windows and as good as Mac: https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-4-best-linux-desktops-base...

'the modern experience' is dogshit sliding down a wet stick for laptops. average it all out.

Re: Switching to Linux: Reclaim Your Freedom

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Linux in a nutshell: Just awful in a laptop, meh in a desktop, and first-class as a server.

I run Linux on my laptop and desktop and have a MacBook.

I wouldn't recommend it for your laptop unless you're an enthusiast. Suspend/sleep is still janky, power saving is poor and dock support is hit and miss depending on the day. And this is after applying a lot of tweaks.

For desktop it's fantastic and I would recommend. It's not without some issues but what OSes is actually without any issues.

For server, I can't imagine using anything else.

Re: Switching to Linux: Reclaim Your Freedom

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This comment is unworthy of your user name. The modern experience of Linux is miles ahead of Windows and as good as Mac: https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-4-best-linux-desktops-base...

'the modern experience' is dogshit sliding down a wet stick for laptops. average it all out.

As a ThinkPad user, I disagree. I've been using Linux (Fedora + Arch) on my Z13 Gen 1 for three years now and it's been a first-class experience. Everything worked out-of-the-box, with literally zero issues. I can't think of a single thing that I'd want to improve, from a laptop user's perspective. For me, this is the definitive Linux laptop experience.

I had a similarly good experience with my previous laptop, an HP Elite Dragonfly. Only niggle was that not all bits of firmware was upgradable via fwupd, so I had to ocassionally boot into Windows to do the firmware updates. But other than that, I don't recollect any issues with it either.

And I'm sure the laptop experience is equally good on "native" Linux laptops, such as the ones from System76, Slimbook, Tuxedo etc.

So to make a blanket statement like "'the modern experience' is dogshit sliding down a wet stick for laptops", is pretty disingenuous and very disrespectful towards all the developers who've worked so hard on making Linux viable.

Re: Switching to Linux: Reclaim Your Freedom

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Linux in a nutshell: Just awful in a laptop, meh in a desktop, and first-class as a server.

I run Linux on my laptop and desktop and have a MacBook. I wouldn't recommend it for your laptop unless you're an enthusiast. Suspend/sleep is still janky, power saving is poor and dock support is hit and miss depending on the day. And this is after applying a lot of tweaks. For desktop it's fantastic and I would recommend. It's not without some issues but what OSes is actually without any issues. For server, I can't…

As a ThinkPad Z13 user, I've had none of the issues you've described. I've been running Linux (Fedora + Arch) on it for three years now and it's been a first-class experience. Everything worked out-of-the-box, with literally zero issues. I can't think of a single thing that I'd want to improve, from a laptop user's perspective. For me, this is the definitive Linux laptop experience.

I had a similarly good experience with my previous laptop, an HP Elite Dragonfly. Only niggle was that not all bits of firmware was upgradable via fwupd, so I had to ocassionally boot into Windows to do the firmware updates. But other than that, I don't recollect any issues with it either, suspend/resume/power management all worked as good as Windows. In fact, battery life was better than Windows when I applied powertop's tweaks.

And I'm sure the laptop experience is equally good on "native" Linux laptops, such as the ones from System76, Slimbook, Tuxedo etc.

So personally, I wouldn't make a blanket statement like "I wouldn't recommend it for your laptop unless you're an enthusiast". To be clear, I'm not claiming that the issues you describe don't exist, but at least for laptops known for having official support for Linux, the experience should be good.

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