How will Australia's under-16 social media ban work? We asked the law's enforcer (2024)
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Re: How will Australia's under-16 social media ban work? We asked the law's enforcer (2024)
#3In short: they have no idea.
They had no idea when it was passed, and this article confirms the same because "there's been promising research you do it by ".
Re: How will Australia's under-16 social media ban work? We asked the law's enforcer (2024)
#4They won’t. They can’t. It’s baked into the legislation!
Re: How will Australia's under-16 social media ban work? We asked the law's enforcer (2024)
#5From top AU banning official:
all [age verification methods] have privacy implications. There was big concern with providing government ID. But there are digital identity providers...
In this case, she's predictably offloading responsibility to a 3rd party provider. I will guess the official is minimally aware that leaks are nearly inevitable (partially due to lax laws) and all of that ID data will be leaked eventually. Probably by a 3rd party to the 3rd party.
Why deceive the reporter and readers on privacy? Because addressing privacy is hard. It takes time, effort, integrity and thoughtfulness.
Because every Gov is loaded with depts that exploit privacy failings to their own advantage.
Because elections are funded by lobbyists that use our data against us.
Add those up and there is so much pushback against respecting privacy - you could launch a spacecraft with it.
Re: How will Australia's under-16 social media ban work? We asked the law's enforcer (2024)
#6From top AU banning official: all [age verification methods] have privacy implications. There was big concern with providing government ID. But there are digital identity providers... This is the point where Gov officials shift from talking about privacy concerns to pretending. In this case, she's predictably offloading responsibility to a 3rd party provider. I will guess the official is minimally aware that leaks ar…
I guess it depends on what the ID data is? If it's just a couple pictures and maybe not even your name then there's not much impact in a leak.
Re: How will Australia's under-16 social media ban work? We asked the law's enforcer (2024)
#7The privacy concerns and “ID everyone” are the boring, standard dystopian parts of this, perfectly in line with the government-by-nannying that Canberra types enjoy.
The better question is what counts as social media? Is HN social media that under 16yo Australians need to be kept away from?
Re: How will Australia's under-16 social media ban work? We asked the law's enforcer (2024)
#8It can't work. Teens will just jump to mastodon instances. I can even see it being the case where running an instance become like being able to make fake ids or sell some weed or something, one person will do it and be cool have friends because of that. Parents won't know about it and it won't raise any flags in logs if done well.
Not to mention just using a VPN or something.
Re: How will Australia's under-16 social media ban work? We asked the law's enforcer (2024)
#9From top AU banning official: all [age verification methods] have privacy implications. There was big concern with providing government ID. But there are digital identity providers... This is the point where Gov officials shift from talking about privacy concerns to pretending. In this case, she's predictably offloading responsibility to a 3rd party provider. I will guess the official is minimally aware that leaks ar…
I guess it depends on what the ID data is? If it's just a couple pictures and maybe not even your name then there's not much impact in a leak.
> I guess it depends on what the ID data is?
At the minimimum it will be
Everything on a Gov ID
All info demanded during the original collection process + demands that get added v2, v3 ...
All possible metadata
Data from other sources, added downstream to make it more valuable to govs/corps
16 and 17 yo
Under 16 because many will try
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#10They should just ban social media for everyone and see what happens.