Trump's Tech Donors Have Big Plans for Greenland
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Trump's Tech Donors Have Big Plans for Greenland
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#2It's all so very 19th century. Like the war in Ukraine.
In the bad old days, when somebody had a resource you wanted, you killed them and took it.
But we finally realized that it was a lot more economically efficient to just trade for it. You didn't throw away blood and treasure that could be better dedicated to actually producing something. Plus we fought two of those 19th-century-style wars in the 20th, and it was clear how insanely dangerous modern weaponry had made that.
The greed never decreased, but we became smarter about it. Or at least, we had. Now we're back to the 19th century habit of making it about our national egos as well as resources, and we're willing to throw away lives again for our egos.
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#3the Venezuela and Guyana oil dispute https://www.offshore-technology.com/features/explainer-the-v...
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#4Not sure on NATO policy if one member attacks another? Is it the same as an external attack?
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#5It's all so very 19th century. Like the war in Ukraine. In the bad old days, when somebody had a resource you wanted, you killed them and took it. But we finally realized that it was a lot more economically efficient to just trade for it. You didn't throw away blood and treasure that could be better dedicated to actually producing something. Plus we fought two of those 19th-century-style wars in the 20th, and it was…
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#6Not sure on NATO policy if one member attacks another? Is it the same as an external attack?
To answer my own question after a bit of reading, the answer is that other NATO countries are expected to come to Denmark's aid. That said, the USA had the requirement watered down in the original agreement. Ironically it was only to aid the USA after 9/11 that it has been invoked. Further irony would be if Trump took the USA out of NATO they might strengthen the commitment!
Re: Trump's Tech Donors Have Big Plans for Greenland
#7Not sure on NATO policy if one member attacks another? Is it the same as an external attack?
To answer my own question after a bit of reading, the answer is that other NATO countries are expected to come to Denmark's aid. That said, the USA had the requirement watered down in the original agreement. Ironically it was only to aid the USA after 9/11 that it has been invoked. Further irony would be if Trump took the USA out of NATO they might strengthen the commitment!
>Further irony would be if Trump took the USA out of NATO they might strengthen the commitment!
It wouldn't surprise me if he did. Trump seems to believe the US is somehow being swindled and cheated by every international agreement and commitment it has. It's a weird victim mentality for the world's last superpower to express, as if the US didn't force the current order onto the Western world at gunpoint, entirely for its own benefit.
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#8I thought maybe someone wanted to create a self-cooled compute or mega-DR datacenter that could be satellite based and cover US and EU, but Starlinks inclination is not high enough.
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#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
To answer my own question after a bit of reading, the answer is that other NATO countries are expected to come to Denmark's aid. That said, the USA had the requirement watered down in the original agreement. Ironically it was only to aid the USA after 9/11 that it has been invoked. Further irony would be if Trump took the USA out of NATO they might strengthen the commitment!
>Further irony would be if Trump took the USA out of NATO they might strengthen the commitment! It wouldn't surprise me if he did. Trump seems to believe the US is somehow being swindled and cheated by every international agreement and commitment it has. It's a weird victim mentality for the world's last superpower to express, as if the US didn't force the current order onto the Western world at gunpoint, entirely fo…
First sign of decline of a super power if it no longer feels super(ior).
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#10Not sure on NATO policy if one member attacks another? Is it the same as an external attack?
To answer my own question after a bit of reading, the answer is that other NATO countries are expected to come to Denmark's aid. That said, the USA had the requirement watered down in the original agreement. Ironically it was only to aid the USA after 9/11 that it has been invoked. Further irony would be if Trump took the USA out of NATO they might strengthen the commitment!
If we so much as step a violent toe in Greenland I sincerely hope that the entire world places steep sanctions and tariffs on the US. We, as a species, need to move beyond these neanderthalic behaviors, and anyone who engages in them needs to be punished severely. An immediate and severe reduction in the quality of life of the American populace may be one of the few things which will motivate us to stop the madness that many Americans decided to plunge us back into.