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NYPD records longest no-shooting streak in 30 Years

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"2 overnight shootings end NYC's 5-day no shooting streak, 5 minutes after it was announced" is the current title of this article...

The story is 5 days without a single shooting and a 25.6% reduction in shootings for the month compared to last year. The streak breaking was inevitable and less important.

In relative population terms it's like saying there wasn't a single shooting in Louisiana and Mississippi for 5 days. Those two states have a combined population slightly smaller than NYC but have the highest rates of gun violence in the country.

Re: NYPD records longest no-shooting streak in 30 Years

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Isn't it supposed to be a "hell hole"? Note: you and your children are more likely to be killed by a car in an American suburb than even be remotely harmed in any way by a stranger in NYC.

In general crime is down across the board big time. Violent crime especially. If you go back 20 years it's pretty crazy how much crime is down. It's even more startling if you go back further.

Americans believe in a lot of weird stuff that isn't backed by real world evidence. Newt Gingrich said it years ago, facts don't matter if people can be made to believe something. It's all relative and Americans have grown up with ridiculous privilege, which makes most people think immigrants are eating dogs or they go buy TP in bulk cuz of reasons.

People are horrible at understanding statistics. An American is more likely to die falling down a set of stairs than they are from a foodborn illness, for example. Or the average gun owner is more likely to take their own life with their gun than they ever are to use it against a criminal. Heck, that gun is more likely to be stolen and used in a murder somewhere else than a person is to use it in self defense. But most Americans believe they absolutely need a gun because of how dangerous the country is. Meanwhile, they're more likely to choke on a pen or get killed by a dog than to ever use that gun.

Re: NYPD records longest no-shooting streak in 30 Years

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for all of those downplaying this... NYC has 8 million people and is the most diverse city in the US... millions more visit every day for work or tourism... that it functions as well as it does is remarkable if you think about it... it's a lot less violent there than its reputation would have you think

signed an 18yr resident and proud NYer

Re: NYPD records longest no-shooting streak in 30 Years

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Isn't it supposed to be a "hell hole"? Note: you and your children are more likely to be killed by a car in an American suburb than even be remotely harmed in any way by a stranger in NYC.

Does NYC have a hell-hole stereotype? Other cities do, and 80's NYC does, and some people throw that shade at all metros, but I wasn't aware of NYC being specifically mis-characterized as being worse than average.

Regardless, this usage of statistics is an excellent example of one of the disconnects between Americans (and I assume other groups of people).

NYC is wonderful, and very safe as far as major cities go. Driving is much less safe, but is safe-ish. We live in a safe world, statistically speaking.

But it's critical to accept that people don't only care about statistics. Humans have emotions. If in town A your chance of being beaten in the street is higher than your chance of being injured in a car accident, and in town B the odds are equal and reversed, people are going to be more angry and critical of town A, especially if the car accidents are not perceived as being of unusually negligent origin (i.e. it's not because everybody there is drunk all the time).

Now if you slide the statistics to counteract the perceived negativity of the two things, at some point they equal out, theoretically, but in practice, it's apples and oranges. In other words, behavior and intention matter. Dignity and civilization matter - a lot. Autonomy and responsibility matter. Crime and deliberate carelessness are not the same as, e.g., a pure accident.

It's the same reason people are more outraged about being hurt by a robot than by a human-driven vehicle.

We have to accept that this side of human nature is intrinsic, and not by itself irrational, even though it is sometimes the source of irrational decision making, when people get too swept up in it.

Re: NYPD records longest no-shooting streak in 30 Years

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I'm nearly hit daily walking around the my NY suburb. Barely conscious drivers in over protective vehicles with no sight lines and poor road design.

Often the pavement ends or is covered in snow and I need to be in the road.

I'd sooner every one have guns here then the current everyone has an suv/truck. At least the guns are dangerous to the user.

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