The State of Vim
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The State of Vim
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#2VIM seemed to have fared well under the new leadership, despite not being able to control the timing of this power transfer. Maybe other BDFL projects would be inspired by VIM's experience and setup successors early.
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#3Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42665222
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#4I wonder how long vim and emacs can stay vibrant. I've used emacs in the last 20 years, so I stick with it, but new generations who are trained on vscode and such are less likely to use such "old fashioned" tools.
Surely, there will still be emacs and vim users 50 years from now, but the user numbers and the community power will diminish as the graybeards gradually leave this plane.
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#5I wonder how long vim and emacs can stay vibrant. I've used emacs in the last 20 years, so I stick with it, but new generations who are trained on vscode and such are less likely to use such "old fashioned" tools. Surely, there will still be emacs and vim users 50 years from now, but the user numbers and the community power will diminish as the graybeards gradually leave this plane.
Emacs and Vim have remained popular through several generations. What do developer surveys say? Vim was near the top a few years ago, iirc.
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#7I wonder how long vim and emacs can stay vibrant. I've used emacs in the last 20 years, so I stick with it, but new generations who are trained on vscode and such are less likely to use such "old fashioned" tools. Surely, there will still be emacs and vim users 50 years from now, but the user numbers and the community power will diminish as the graybeards gradually leave this plane.
Emacs and Vim have remained popular through several generations. What do developer surveys say? Vim was near the top a few years ago, iirc.
With nvim, there has been quite the resurgence of Vim. Good software tends to be resilient. I believe both emacs and vim will see many, many more years.
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#8I wonder how long vim and emacs can stay vibrant. I've used emacs in the last 20 years, so I stick with it, but new generations who are trained on vscode and such are less likely to use such "old fashioned" tools. Surely, there will still be emacs and vim users 50 years from now, but the user numbers and the community power will diminish as the graybeards gradually leave this plane.
Emacs and Vim have remained popular through several generations. What do developer surveys say? Vim was near the top a few years ago, iirc.
https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2024/technology#1-other-tool...
emacs is 4% vs VSCode 73%, so it's not popular, though vim still is
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#9Tangentially related and as an Emacs user, I still see the editor as a platform that bends to my needs https://xenodium.com/a-platform-that-moulds-to-your-needs
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Emacs and Vim have remained popular through several generations. What do developer surveys say? Vim was near the top a few years ago, iirc.
https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2024/technology#1-other-tool... emacs is 4% vs VSCode 73%, so it's not popular, though vim still is
Thanks. In more detail:
Visual Studio Code 73.6%
Visual Studio 29.3%
IntelliJ IDEA 26.8%
Notepad++ 23.9%
Vim 21.6%
Android Studio 16.1%
PyCharm 15.1%
Jupyter Notebook/JupyterLab 12.8%
Neovim 12.5%
...
Emacs 4.2%
...
Spacemacs 0.4%