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More than 40% of postdocs leave academia, study reveals

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Re: More than 40% of postdocs leave academia, study reveals

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Logic checks out. Not everyone should be a professor. The question is: should they have done a PhD and postdoc?

Sample of one: No regrets. It was a tough regimen and I got filtered out of academia. But, I grew immensely throughout the path and got to be around some exceptional minds. I shoulda/coulda have worked harder and been more daring.

Re: More than 40% of postdocs leave academia, study reveals

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I would have expected a higher percentage. Few openings and a high bar for whatever there is. It was tough to get an assistant professor job 30 years ago and I can't imagine what it must be like now.

> I would have expected a higher percentage.

This. A 60% stay rate evokes scenarios of academic inbreeding and a total disconnect between the real world and the small bubble where research groups operate.

Re: More than 40% of postdocs leave academia, study reveals

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I would have expected a higher percentage. Few openings and a high bar for whatever there is. It was tough to get an assistant professor job 30 years ago and I can't imagine what it must be like now.

Ditto, I would have thought it would be somewhere in the mid to high nineties.

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I would have expected a higher percentage. Few openings and a high bar for whatever there is. It was tough to get an assistant professor job 30 years ago and I can't imagine what it must be like now.

> I would have expected a higher percentage. This. A 60% stay rate evokes scenarios of academic inbreeding and a total disconnect between the real world and the small bubble where research groups operate.

> A 60% stay rate evokes scenarios of academic inbreeding and a total disconnect between the real world and the small bubble where research groups operate

Why?

Re: More than 40% of postdocs leave academia, study reveals

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I would have expected a higher percentage. Few openings and a high bar for whatever there is. It was tough to get an assistant professor job 30 years ago and I can't imagine what it must be like now.

Ditto, I would have thought it would be somewhere in the mid to high nineties.

I couldn't read the whole article due to the paywall. I wonder (now that my knee has stopped jerking) whether they consider non-tenure-ladder professorial positions at universities as 'academia'. e.g. adjuncts, lecturers, staff or contract researchers, lab administrators, ...
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