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Protecting the Meaning and Value of American Citizenship

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Re: Protecting the Meaning and Value of American Citizenship

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Trump issued an executive order ending birthright citizenship in America.

Expect this to go all the way to SCOTUS. I would imagine multiple lower courts will rule on it in the near-term, probably with injunctions and such. Multiple lawsuits challenging it have already been prepared and will be filed shortly

Certainly reminiscent of Bannon's shock and awe strategy from '16

Re: Protecting the Meaning and Value of American Citizenship

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post #3

Trump issued an executive order ending birthright citizenship in America.

Expect this to go all the way to SCOTUS. I would imagine multiple lower courts will rule on it in the near-term, probably with injunctions and such. Multiple lawsuits challenging it have already been prepared and will be filed shortly Certainly reminiscent of Bannon's shock and awe strategy from '16

ACLU already sued. https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/immigrants-rights-advoca...

Re: Protecting the Meaning and Value of American Citizenship

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Birthright citizenship is one of those things that I thought was with us since the beginning. Turns out I was wrong.

I believe it now doesn't apply for to parents that are here illegally. Not taking sides but just pointing the nuance

Re: Protecting the Meaning and Value of American Citizenship

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Birthright citizenship is one of those things that I thought was with us since the beginning. Turns out I was wrong.

I believe it now doesn't apply for to parents that are here illegally. Not taking sides but just pointing the nuance

Did you read the executive order? It clearly states it also covers parents that are here legally through visas like H, F etc... It is not just about illegal immigration. E.g. if you work in the US on H and have a kid with a student on F visa, the kid will not be a US citizen going forward (starting in 30 days).

I'd be curious to hear the argument that people legally working or studying here aren't "subject to jurisdiction" of. People on H1B for a while file the exact same taxes citizens file (because they're US persons for tax purposes). Not sure how are they legally not subject to jurisdiction of?

Re: Protecting the Meaning and Value of American Citizenship

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Birthright citizenship is one of those things that I thought was with us since the beginning. Turns out I was wrong.

How would the country work without it? Thousands of non-citizens would be added to the country on a daily basis.

Re: Protecting the Meaning and Value of American Citizenship

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Very few countries have birthright citizenship (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli). I still find it to be a strange concept. It seems like in the US, birthright citizenship isn’t granted in the constitution or laws directly but was the result of a court ruling, which is extra strange. I’m not sure if this is the right way to go about it, but I think removing it is the right direction to have a sense of sovereignty and make citizenship meaningful.
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