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Frustration Tolerance: An Essential for Surviving Large Orgs

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Re: Frustration Tolerance: An Essential for Surviving Large Orgs

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Post by fdpee »

Norfair wrote: post #2

Having an organisation of highly-frustration-tollerant people is a great way of getting an organisation where nothing ever gets fixed.

This, I'm the low frustration tolerance one and guess what ? I'm also the one that document the product and make it actually easy to onboard on

Re: Frustration Tolerance: An Essential for Surviving Large Orgs

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Post by CharlesW »

Norfair wrote: post #2

Having an organisation of highly-frustration-tollerant people is a great way of getting an organisation where nothing ever gets fixed.

TFA doesn't say that "frustration tolerant" people tolerate problems, but that they tolerate frustration as they fix those problems "without succumbing to negative emotions or counterproductive behaviors".

I was far more frustration intolerant earlier in my career, part of which I can now attribute to undiagnosed AuDHD. Although I can't say that I've mastered frustration tolerance, I've learned to moderate it to the point that I'm far more effective now.

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Post by hansvm »

rini17 wrote: post #6

"no biggie, it's just like learning to navigate a busy city" Such insidious reframing with absolutely no mention of burnout possibility. Yuck.

That phrase resonated with me. Do you not get burnout when you spend too much time in a busy city? God forbid you'd have to navigate one 8-5 every weekday.

Re: Frustration Tolerance: An Essential for Surviving Large Orgs

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Post by gffrd »

CharlesW wrote: post #5
Norfair wrote: post #2

Having an organisation of highly-frustration-tollerant people is a great way of getting an organisation where nothing ever gets fixed.

TFA doesn't say that "frustration tolerant" people tolerate problems , but that they tolerate frustration as they fix those problems "without succumbing to negative emotions or counterproductive behaviors". I was far more frustration intolerant earlier in my career, part of which I can now attribute to undiagnosed AuDHD. Although I can't say that I've mastered frustration tolerance, I've learned to moderate it to the…

I’d be interested to hear how you’ve learned to moderate your response to frustration more effectively.

Practices? Medication? Etc.

Re: Frustration Tolerance: An Essential for Surviving Large Orgs

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Post by nateburke »

"I learned that the world of men as it exists today is a bureaucracy. This is an obvious truth, of course, though it is also one the ignorance of which causes great suffering.

“But moreover, I discovered, in the only way that a man ever really learns anything important, the real skill that is required to succeed in a bureaucracy. I mean really succeed: do good, make a difference, serve. I discovered the key. This key is not efficiency, or probity, or insight, or wisdom. It is not political cunning, interpersonal skills, raw IQ, loyalty, vision, or any of the qualities that the bureaucratic world calls virtues, and tests for. The key is a certain capacity that underlies all these qualities, rather the way that an ability to breathe and pump blood underlies all thought and action.

“The underlying bureaucratic key is the ability to deal with boredom. To function effectively in an environment that precludes everything vital and human. To breathe, so to speak, without air.

“The key is the ability, whether innate or conditioned, to find the other side of the rote, the picayune, the meaningless, the repetitive, the pointlessly complex. To be, in a word, unborable.

“It is the key to modern life. If you are immune to boredom, there is literally nothing you cannot accomplish.

David Foster Wallace, The Pale King

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