Firefox Beta 15 supports the new Opus audio format

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Post by kinetik » Fri, Jul 20, 2012, 9:21 PM UTC

Firefox Beta 15 supports the new Opus audio format
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Re: Firefox Beta 15 supports the new Opus audio format

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Post by simonster » Fri, Jul 20, 2012, 10:16 PM UTC

Those listening test results are impressive. I wonder how it performs at higher bitrates.

Re: Firefox Beta 15 supports the new Opus audio format

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Post by shmerl » Fri, Jul 20, 2012, 10:38 PM UTC

Luckily it's going to be W3C standard, and Apple and MS won't be able to use their lame excuses to avoid implementing it in their browsers, like they did for Vorbis, VP8 and etc.

Re: Firefox Beta 15 supports the new Opus audio format

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Post by tobylane » Fri, Jul 20, 2012, 10:42 PM UTC

I went into the article thinking why isn't OGG good enough, and the xkcd joke about 15 different standards.

I left pleased about this new standard (from an advert, any downsides?) but need some patent assurances. If Mozilla are happy will everyone be?

Re: Firefox Beta 15 supports the new Opus audio format

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Post by wmf » Fri, Jul 20, 2012, 10:44 PM UTC

shmerl wrote: post #3

Luckily it's going to be W3C standard, and Apple and MS won't be able to use their lame excuses to avoid implementing it in their browsers, like they did for Vorbis, VP8 and etc.

Doesn't Apple's lame excuse of unknown patents apply to all technologies?

Re: Firefox Beta 15 supports the new Opus audio format

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Post by slowpoke » Fri, Jul 20, 2012, 10:50 PM UTC

tobylane wrote: post #4

I went into the article thinking why isn't OGG good enough, and the xkcd joke about 15 different standards. I left pleased about this new standard (from an advert, any downsides?) but need some patent assurances. If Mozilla are happy will everyone be?

Unfortunately, according to Wikipedia, Skype holds software patents on parts of the algorithm. Even though they said they'd make them avaiable royalty-free, this still means it isn't completely free.

Re: Firefox Beta 15 supports the new Opus audio format

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Post by mappu » Fri, Jul 20, 2012, 10:55 PM UTC

(2010) Some discussion about CELT / Opus from the author of x264: http://pbox.ca/16cbg

Re: Firefox Beta 15 supports the new Opus audio format

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Post by stcredzero » Fri, Jul 20, 2012, 11:09 PM UTC

slowpoke wrote: post #6

tobylane wrote: post #4

I went into the article thinking why isn't OGG good enough, and the xkcd joke about 15 different standards. I left pleased about this new standard (from an advert, any downsides?) but need some patent assurances. If Mozilla are happy will everyone be?

Unfortunately, according to Wikipedia, Skype holds software patents on parts of the algorithm. Even though they said they'd make them avaiable royalty-free, this still means it isn't completely free.

free_enough + available > completely_free

Re: Firefox Beta 15 supports the new Opus audio format

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Post by soperj » Fri, Jul 20, 2012, 11:15 PM UTC

mappu wrote: post #7

(2010) Some discussion about CELT / Opus from the author of x264: http://pbox.ca/16cbg

Just checking, CELT & Opus are the same thing? Seems like they're saying that Opus is a merge of CELT & SILK

Re: Firefox Beta 15 supports the new Opus audio format

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Post by azakai » Fri, Jul 20, 2012, 11:23 PM UTC

slowpoke wrote: post #6

tobylane wrote: post #4

I went into the article thinking why isn't OGG good enough, and the xkcd joke about 15 different standards. I left pleased about this new standard (from an advert, any downsides?) but need some patent assurances. If Mozilla are happy will everyone be?

Unfortunately, according to Wikipedia, Skype holds software patents on parts of the algorithm. Even though they said they'd make them avaiable royalty-free, this still means it isn't completely free.

In what way is using a technology not free, if you are given a royalty-free license to use the patents on it? (Honest question, I don't know what you mean here.)