I failed moving my Google calendar to Proton
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Re: I failed moving my Google calendar to Proton
#2Fwiw, I had a similar experience and ended up switching to Fastmail. Less private which is a shame, but still achieves degoogling
Re: I failed moving my Google calendar to Proton
#3Yeah, unfortunately this is one of those sandpaper tradeoffs for some users with some of the Proton suite and how they approach privacy (and its consequences for you as the end user).
I've had similar bugbears with their other products which end up in me not using anything except the core mail product.
They seem to improve things over time, but it's a game of patience.
E.g. I stopped using the Drive apps and only use it as an async backup store, because it keeps creating sync conflict files if you sync something you edit frequently (like an Obsidian vault). It also for some reason kept setting my user permissions to read only for my note files while it did this (on macOS).
Re: I failed moving my Google calendar to Proton
#4Fwiw, I had a similar experience and ended up switching to Fastmail. Less private which is a shame, but still achieves degoogling
I was going to ask if Fastmail went smoother. Bron (CEO) is active in IETF doing the JMAP related stuff and other things, he is responsive to discussion in that place, I felt like they are working to make things more gooder better.
Proton is secure. But it can be very hard to work with. I help seniors who were taken there by their more paranoid friends and associates and now struggle with the GUI and tying it into older mail clients
Re: I failed moving my Google calendar to Proton
#5Fwiw, I had a similar experience and ended up switching to Fastmail. Less private which is a shame, but still achieves degoogling
My own experience of migrating my calendars and contacts from iCloud to Fastmail went seamlessly. What's more, the user experience on my iPhone went pretty much unchanged, including in Apple's own Calendar and Contacts apps, which has been very nice. Would recommend!
(It's worth noting for the privacy conscious that Australia, where Fastmail is based, has a truly terrible set of laws when it comes to government snooping, so if your threat model includes the Australian government, probably best to avoid Fastmail.)
Re: I failed moving my Google calendar to Proton
#6This is a function of Proton’s weird e2ee setup, which the calendar and contacts and email protocols were never designed for.
I self-host my own calendar, email, and contacts now.
You can probably do it on a raspberry pi or small NUC at home, with some port forwards over nebula/tailscale from a $5 VPS, if you wish.
Re: I failed moving my Google calendar to Proton
#7Fwiw, I had a similar experience and ended up switching to Fastmail. Less private which is a shame, but still achieves degoogling
My own experience of migrating my calendars and contacts from iCloud to Fastmail went seamlessly. What's more, the user experience on my iPhone went pretty much unchanged, including in Apple's own Calendar and Contacts apps, which has been very nice. Would recommend! (It's worth noting for the privacy conscious that Australia, where Fastmail is based, has a truly terrible set of laws when it comes to government snoop…
IIRC, Australia also shares data with the US, UK, Canada and New Zealand.
Re: I failed moving my Google calendar to Proton
#8Fwiw, I had a similar experience and ended up switching to Fastmail. Less private which is a shame, but still achieves degoogling
My own experience of migrating my calendars and contacts from iCloud to Fastmail went seamlessly. What's more, the user experience on my iPhone went pretty much unchanged, including in Apple's own Calendar and Contacts apps, which has been very nice. Would recommend! (It's worth noting for the privacy conscious that Australia, where Fastmail is based, has a truly terrible set of laws when it comes to government snoop…
And Australia is Five Eyes, which means FBI/DHS/DEA/ATF all have warrantless access to everything in Fastmail via FAA702.
Re: I failed moving my Google calendar to Proton
#9This is a function of Proton’s weird e2ee setup, which the calendar and contacts and email protocols were never designed for. I self-host my own calendar, email, and contacts now. You can probably do it on a raspberry pi or small NUC at home, with some port forwards over nebula/tailscale from a $5 VPS, if you wish.
Self hosting email sounds like it comes with a lot of dragons, what do you use for it?
Re: I failed moving my Google calendar to Proton
#10I've used Proton for like 5-6 years now, Calendar is definitely the roughest of their products. Good news there is they are rebuilding it from scratch with an initial (beta?) release scheduled for this year!