A three month review of kagi search and the orion web browser (2024)
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Re: A three month review of kagi search and the orion web browser (2024)
#2Kagi is a tough pill to swallow. Their search is hands down the best around, there's no other way around it.
That being said, $10/mo is also expensive.
The workaround I found is using Kagi Ultimate. I get access to Claude (and I'm still able to attach files + access a dozen other LLMs) for $25/mo, so I was able to cancel Claude and keep Kagi and get the best of both worlds from either product.
Side note: incredible that a small team like Kagi's can somehow use LLMs more effectively in search than a company that has years of search experience (i.e. Google)
Re: A three month review of kagi search and the orion web browser (2024)
#3> The core experience is largely still dictated by Chromium’s foundation however.
It isn't, the core is always about the UI that you've dismissed. It's the reason I use their browser on iOS and customize a few annoying gestures away despite the more frequent app crashes vs Safari or other browsers and despite the fact that extension support is poor
> but Safari on iOS is the platonic ideal of mobile web browsing
Ah, that explains it, this was never true for me, too many UI issues with no way to customize/avoid them
Re: A three month review of kagi search and the orion web browser (2024)
#4I have used kagi for quite a while now, and i use it pretty much exclusively. I was unhappy with google ignoring many terms in my search queries and giving me results that I generally considered to be 'intro' pages and generic content, even when my searches were very specific. I have found kagi much better. I dont use any of the advanced stuff like summarisation or ai stuff, i just want search results that have my keywords in them.
Re: A three month review of kagi search and the orion web browser (2024)
#5Orion had an update recently that broke my autologin to HN. I posted a question to their forum and they fixed it within a few hours. Incredibly responsive!
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#6I’ve been using Kagi for over a year now. I just don’t think about it most of the times, I search, I get what I’m looking for quickly, and I move on. That’s all I want and it’s delivered well, without ads.
Re: A three month review of kagi search and the orion web browser (2024)
#7Orion on iOS is such a relief. I can have much needed extensions like uBlock Origin and DarkReader without which the web is a painful experience.
Re: A three month review of kagi search and the orion web browser (2024)
#8Kagi is a tough pill to swallow. Their search is hands down the best around, there's no other way around it. That being said, $10/mo is also expensive. The workaround I found is using Kagi Ultimate. I get access to Claude (and I'm still able to attach files + access a dozen other LLMs) for $25/mo, so I was able to cancel Claude and keep Kagi and get the best of both worlds from either product. Side note: incredible t…
> a company that has years of search experience (i.e. Google)
From experience on the figurative side of this reality, I can attest that it is hard to build a track while the train is running on it.
Re: A three month review of kagi search and the orion web browser (2024)
#9How well does Kagi work for places outside the US and non-English languages?
I've only ever seen it mentioned by US users, so I have no clue how support is elsewhere. I briefly tried duckduckgo and its non-US/non-english search results seemed to be lacking (though this was about 2 years ago).
Re: A three month review of kagi search and the orion web browser (2024)
#10Nice post.