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A new model of school in Sweden

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Re: A new model of school in Sweden

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Looks like it's from 2008. I'll be happy to hear from anyone who has a closer experience with the Kunskapsskolan.

I actually went to Kunskapsskolan as the equivalent of a High School student. Graduated in 2005. It work out very well for me, the freedom to go about the curriculum at my own pace suited me perfectly. The experience of going there was very much like what you would find at a university. The school demanded a very high level of motivation and discipline. And this makes it problematic, since quite a lot of students at that age were ill prepared to face that.

I might be hesitant to say that this reform has worked out well for Sweden as a whole, as I think for-profit entities in charge of public education is a step in the wrong direction.

Re: A new model of school in Sweden

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post #3
post #2

Looks like it's from 2008. I'll be happy to hear from anyone who has a closer experience with the Kunskapsskolan.

I actually went to Kunskapsskolan as the equivalent of a High School student. Graduated in 2005. It work out very well for me, the freedom to go about the curriculum at my own pace suited me perfectly. The experience of going there was very much like what you would find at a university. The school demanded a very high level of motivation and discipline. And this makes it problematic, since quite a lot of students at…

Definitely the wrong direction, because it can go wrong on so many ways.

Myself I am a victim of for-profit education (well, my spouse is), effectively locked in by contract at a company for 10+ years more. It sounds so good in the beginning, but once you finish your studies and you stand in front of that loong walk...

Re: A new model of school in Sweden

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The experiences that were made from privatizing Swedish schools were:

* generally worse results and increased inequality

* 5 companies dominate the market, and makes huge profits

* Sweden has fallen from 3rd to 19th on the PISA test in reading.

* huge quality differences between schools

* schools have become a "sorting machine" where motivated parents and pupils choose certain schools and avoid other schools.

* The experience from Sweden, and research from OECD shows that more competition in school does not produce better results.

Re: A new model of school in Sweden

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nice approach and i like the fact that at least something changes in school system since it needs to be improved for sure.

still i dont like schools to earn so much money. teachers and school managers need incentives to provide excellent lessons. but so much money as a profit?

another point is the philosophy of the school. on the one hand they say that every student can learn at "his own level" but on the other hand they prefer standardization over everything else.

they only want the standardization to be used at the framework, the process side. they dont want every student to learn the same things at the same speed. still it sounds like a contradiction to me.

with some improvements this could be a very nice approach. employees should be able to get really big bonusses based on performance. half of the net profit should be used for investments and the other half should be extra tax for the goverment since imo schools should not accumulate huge profit amounts..

Re: A new model of school in Sweden

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post #3
post #2

Looks like it's from 2008. I'll be happy to hear from anyone who has a closer experience with the Kunskapsskolan.

I actually went to Kunskapsskolan as the equivalent of a High School student. Graduated in 2005. It work out very well for me, the freedom to go about the curriculum at my own pace suited me perfectly. The experience of going there was very much like what you would find at a university. The school demanded a very high level of motivation and discipline. And this makes it problematic, since quite a lot of students at…

"The school demanded a very high level of motivation and discipline. And this makes it problematic, since quite a lot of students at that age were ill prepared to face that."

Cherrypicking of the self motivated ones will reduce the level of motivation and self-discipline seen in the 'safety net' schools. Not good for society as a whole. I worry about this in the UK.

Re: A new model of school in Sweden

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The experiences that were made from privatizing Swedish schools were: * generally worse results and increased inequality * 5 companies dominate the market, and makes huge profits * Sweden has fallen from 3rd to 19th on the PISA test in reading. * huge quality differences between schools * schools have become a "sorting machine" where motivated parents and pupils choose certain schools and avoid other schools. * The e…

Can you provide any links?

Re: A new model of school in Sweden

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The school system in Sweden is many things (despicable, horrendous, etc etc), but free market it is not. These private schools don't operate on a free market - the government supplies the "customers" (students) under penalty of prison* for the students' parents, for crying out loud.

* Or possibly even worse: a student who doesn't go to school is liable to end up in the clutches of the meddling welfare board.

Re: A new model of school in Sweden

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The school system in Sweden is many things (despicable, horrendous, etc etc), but free market it is not. These private schools don't operate on a free market - the government supplies the "customers" (students) under penalty of prison* for the students' parents, for crying out loud. * Or possibly even worse: a student who doesn't go to school is liable to end up in the clutches of the meddling welfare board.

I think I didn't really get this comment. Care to explain further?
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