Why Canada Should Join the EU

> Canada’s inclusive treatment of its indigenous peoples, at least in recent decades, could be emulated by Europeans (though First Nations Canadians might fairly object to closer ties with ex-colonists)

I really wonder what the author meant with this line. There's very few populations in Europe that bear any similarity whatsoever with the relationship between First Nations people and most Canadians, since most populations in Europe have created their own states. And the few tribal populations in Northern Europe generally were and certainly are today treated at least as fairly as anything in Canada. So who are they talking about? Would the Basques feel that they would be treated better as First Nations people in Canada than they are today in Spain?

Note that the treatment of immigrants is a completely separate topic in the article, so I don't think they could be referring to, say, the treatment of Syrian refugees with that sentence above.

Re: Why Canada Should Join the EU

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Post by nobodywillobsrv » Fri, Jan 03, 2025, 7:55 AM UTC

The biggest problem with the EU is that it is built for bureaucrats and as such it is geared towards irreversible "blob" decisions.

Brexit should have been a near no-op. But it was a huge pain. They hadn't even planned for it or thought about it.

EU should have a pre-memeber clearing state that countries stay in and then vote every year or n years to be "in" or "out" of the EU. But part of being in the EU should be to maintain non-in versions of all policies so that members can actually negotiate and easily leave without having huge bureaucratic cost.

This would make the EU stronger and better. Currently, there are many terrible undemocratic institutions that are being used to ruin countries.

Re: Why Canada Should Join the EU

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Post by BJones12 » Fri, Jan 03, 2025, 7:56 AM UTC

> Europeans could learn from Canada how to allow immigration in a fashion that the population embraces rather than tolerates

Clearly the author is ignorant. Canadians are sick of immigration. Young Canadians doubly so. Racism is becoming more acceptable by the day.

Re: Why Canada Should Join the EU

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Post by BossingAround » Fri, Jan 03, 2025, 7:59 AM UTC

If Canada joined the EU, they would have a TON of immediate immigrants, ranging from manual labor (e.g. plumbers, builders, cleaners, factory workers, ...) up to knowledge workers (e.g. software engineers, doctors, nurses, ...).

Not sure what that would do with Canadian economy. IMO it would be even more desirable target for emigration than the UK when it was in the EU. I know I would certainly consider it, being a software engineer.

Re: Why Canada Should Join the EU

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Post by _blk » Fri, Jan 03, 2025, 8:01 AM UTC

BJones12 wrote: post #8

> Europeans could learn from Canada how to allow immigration in a fashion that the population embraces rather than tolerates Clearly the author is ignorant. Canadians are sick of immigration. Young Canadians doubly so. Racism is becoming more acceptable by the day.

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