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The GPU, not the TPM, is the root of hardware DRM

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Re: The GPU, not the TPM, is the root of hardware DRM

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>The FSF's focus on TPMs here is not only technically wrong, it's indicative of a failure to understand what's actually happening in the industry.

This sounds 100% on-brand for the FSF. The FSF's primary public-facing persona has peculiar computing habits so far removed from the mainstream that it's likely he has absolutely no clue how the real world works.

In fact by his own statement he has to rely on volunteers to update his website.

It's disappointing to me because the FSF could be so much more influential today, but the cult of personality around RMS has really destroyed their public credibility among "normies", the most important demographic to convince.

When the FSF finally realizes that a political organization such as theirs needs a public face with charisma and social skills, it will be too late.

Re: The GPU, not the TPM, is the root of hardware DRM

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I have to wonder A) What does DRM realistically accomplish for the media companies? And, B) How are these DRM schemes actually being defeated? I do occasionally don my pirate hat* and have never had an issue finding what I want at the quality I want within an hour of a episode/movie being released to streaming. That would seem to indicate that these efforts at DRM are actually failing to have any noticeable effect at all.

[*] Jellyfin & and the -arr daemons are far more usable and stable then wading through the various streaming services interfaces, so I'll download episodes even though I do actually pay for the streaming services.

Re: The GPU, not the TPM, is the root of hardware DRM

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DMCA 1201 should be reversed and DRM itself should be illegal.

DRM shouldn't be illegal, but works protected by DRM should be ineligible for copyright protection unless a key is placed in escrow somewhere.

Basically, rightsholders should be be able to choose enforceable legal protection or unbreakable technological protection, but not both. Copyright was supposed to be a two-way street, but DRM permanently barricades one lane.

Re: The GPU, not the TPM, is the root of hardware DRM

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I have to wonder A) What does DRM realistically accomplish for the media companies? And, B) How are these DRM schemes actually being defeated? I do occasionally don my pirate hat* and have never had an issue finding what I want at the quality I want within an hour of a episode/movie being released to streaming. That would seem to indicate that these efforts at DRM are actually failing to have any noticeable effect at…

> How are these DRM schemes actually being defeated?

Stripping the more advanced forms of DRM usually relies on compromised device keys which can and will be revoked if it becomes known that they've leaked, so the details are deliberately kept very quiet. If you've ever experienced a device suddenly losing the ability to play 4K Netflix, it may have been because its keys were revoked.

Re: The GPU, not the TPM, is the root of hardware DRM

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>The FSF's focus on TPMs here is not only technically wrong, it's indicative of a failure to understand what's actually happening in the industry. This sounds 100% on-brand for the FSF. The FSF's primary public-facing persona has peculiar computing habits so far removed from the mainstream that it's likely he has absolutely no clue how the real world works. In fact by his own statement he has to rely on volunteers to…

“Normies” are never going to care about the stuff the FSF is interested in. I don’t think you can extract the philosophy from the eccentric personalities that created it, they’re one in the same.

Re: The GPU, not the TPM, is the root of hardware DRM

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post #7

>The FSF's focus on TPMs here is not only technically wrong, it's indicative of a failure to understand what's actually happening in the industry. This sounds 100% on-brand for the FSF. The FSF's primary public-facing persona has peculiar computing habits so far removed from the mainstream that it's likely he has absolutely no clue how the real world works. In fact by his own statement he has to rely on volunteers to…

“Normies” are never going to care about the stuff the FSF is interested in. I don’t think you can extract the philosophy from the eccentric personalities that created it, they’re one in the same.

Normies are who you need to convince if you want to effect social change.

If the FSF sticks to their current mission of preaching to the choir, they'll remain about as relevant as they are today, which isn't a lot.

Re: The GPU, not the TPM, is the root of hardware DRM

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I have to wonder A) What does DRM realistically accomplish for the media companies? And, B) How are these DRM schemes actually being defeated? I do occasionally don my pirate hat* and have never had an issue finding what I want at the quality I want within an hour of a episode/movie being released to streaming. That would seem to indicate that these efforts at DRM are actually failing to have any noticeable effect at…

DRM has likely had a big impact in shifting the casual consumer conversation to "hey they're gonna start down on account sharing" from early-2000s style "here's a straight-up copy I made for you." And this helps prop up the "they'll get a Netflix account to binge the same three shows over and over" part of the business model. The cumulative monthly cost adds up but it feels cheaper than forking over a few hundred bucks for a few box sets + buying a disc player.

None of the hurdles stop 100% of people. But every hurdle causes some people to stop bothering.

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