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Show HN: Get e-signatures & pay per signed doc

#1
Woke up today with a 100-degree fever & found out Google is now our competitor.

Last week, we started building signwith.co/ - a simple, pay-per-use e-signature tool for people who are struggling with complex e-sign tools.

The plan was to build quietly, run a private beta, get 50 users in 15 days, and then do a launch. Easy peasy.

But since Google dropped into the e-signature space - we needed to talk.

So after 30 minutes of existential dread, a lot of “what are we even doing?” thoughts, and one strong dose of paracetamol

we said, screw it. - let’s change gears.

So now we're opening our beta, and here's the deal:

• All the people who join will get free credits worth 10 signed docs • 12 months credit validity • No complexity • No hidden cost • No subscription commitment

You can join the beta here - http://signwith.co

That said, we see Google's entry in the signature space as validation.

This event expanded the market with such massive awareness.

Let me be clear: We’re not trying to be DocuSign, Google, or any other enterprise beast.

We’re indie makers and building for: • The freelancers • The consultants • The indie and small business owners • and anyone who just needs a contract signed—fast, simple, no headaches.

Here’s how SignWith works: • Upload your doc • Drop signature spots • Send it out and track • Pay per signed document

That’s it. No subscriptions. No feature bloat. No crazy hidden charges and no complex pricing tiers.

If you've read it so far, would love to see you on the other side.

And hey, if you’ve got any feedback, suggestions, or just want to tell us what you need, reply here or drop me a DM. We’re all ears!

Cheers!

Show HN: Get e-signatures & pay per signed doc
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Re: Show HN: Get e-signatures & pay per signed doc

#2
My sugestion is to change the title to "Show HN: SignWith: Get e-signatures & pay per document" or something like that and keep the explanation of the problem only in the description.

> That said, we see Google's entry in the signature space as validation.

I agree, it's a good new, but very scary.

Re: Show HN: Get e-signatures & pay per signed doc

#3

My sugestion is to change the title to " Show HN: SignWith: Get e-signatures & pay per document " or something like that and keep the explanation of the problem only in the description. > That said, we see Google's entry in the signature space as validation. I agree, it's a good new, but very scary.

indeed - scary validation

thanks for the suggestions - made the change in the title.

Re: Show HN: Get e-signatures & pay per signed doc

#6
Kind of tangential, but I'll share a bit of a horror story from a friend when it comes to e-signatures.

The company in question uses DocuSign, and most of their clients do as well. They are big, serious companies. However, nobody is able to set up DocuSign in a reasonable way for a multi-client contract. Every company needs to use their own DocuSign.

Now, DocuSign embeds a cryptographic signature in the signed PDF. This means you can't sign a PDF twice.

So what my friend does is create the PDF to be signed, send it to one company for signatures, get it back and run it through Microsoft Print to PDF. This friendly utility happily strips away all cryptographic signatures, but importantly leaves the "signature picture" in place. And then they can send this PDF to the next company.

I joked that every time they do this, a cryptographer somewhere stubs their pinky toe on a corner.

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#7

Kind of tangential, but I'll share a bit of a horror story from a friend when it comes to e-signatures. The company in question uses DocuSign, and most of their clients do as well. They are big, serious companies. However, nobody is able to set up DocuSign in a reasonable way for a multi-client contract. Every company needs to use their own DocuSign. Now, DocuSign embeds a cryptographic signature in the signed PDF. T…

I was told by two Swiss lawyers not to ever use DocuSign. Either use paper like before or the eSign service from Swisscom [1] which holds up in court.

[1] https://www.swisscom.ch/en/about/news/2023/10/12-sign.mobile...

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#8

Kind of tangential, but I'll share a bit of a horror story from a friend when it comes to e-signatures. The company in question uses DocuSign, and most of their clients do as well. They are big, serious companies. However, nobody is able to set up DocuSign in a reasonable way for a multi-client contract. Every company needs to use their own DocuSign. Now, DocuSign embeds a cryptographic signature in the signed PDF. T…

I was told by two Swiss lawyers not to ever use DocuSign. Either use paper like before or the eSign service from Swisscom [1] which holds up in court. [1] https://www.swisscom.ch/en/about/news/2023/10/12-sign.mobile...

What makes the Swiss telecom product better other than regulatory capture preferencing domestic products?

Re: Show HN: Get e-signatures & pay per signed doc

#9
The problem with being in this space is that you need to have the financials to be around for long enough to be useful. For legal documents, that means a 3+ year horizon.

Right now, you might work for low-risk (meaning, essentially no risk of contract disputes) short-term gigs for freelancers and consultants, but you're a no-go for businesses of any size, or anyone else that needs a contract signed.

You need to demonstrate stability before you can expand from the short-term niche, or else that your signature/document validation service will survive the likely death of your company.

Re: Show HN: Get e-signatures & pay per signed doc

#10
All legal docs pages seem broken (at least on mobile).

I’m your target customer but would never use this because it inspires no confidence that when the shit hits the fan (ie: contract dispute) your signing tool will stand up to legal scrutiny. The sales page is all about being cheap and mobile responsive, but it doesn’t mention anything about the legality of document signatures processed through the tool, or the data security/privacy standards you uphold.

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