My hope is to combine my CS and programming experience along with my masters program in interesting ways. To understand the stack all the way down to the hardware level and be able to implement end-to-end solutions that way. My issue is not knowing anything about the fields in industry
Ask HN: Is Computer Engineering a worthwhile MS degree?
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Re: Ask HN: Is Computer Engineering a worthwhile MS degree?
#2Computer engineering has become a niche and there are few potential employers. Most computer manufacturers assemble computers from components and subsystems from Intel, AMD, TMSC, Nvidia, etc. Although it does require a great deal of expertise, it is not typical of what is taught as CE.
Consider what the proposed CE curriculum covers. In many cases university courses fail to keep up with the pace of technology. Industry experience is far more valuable than theory. There just isn't enough time during a semester to develop in-depth practical experience in any given area.
Electronic / embedded systems engineering have broader potential areas of application. FPGAs are potentially a very good skill to have. But, as above, consider in light of employment opportunities.
At the lowest design levels EEs obsess over transmission line effects and EMF radiation from PCB traces. These days advanced electronic circuits are microwave transmitters.
Re: Ask HN: Is Computer Engineering a worthwhile MS degree?
#3It very much depends on where you plan to live and work. Work opportunities are not evenly distributed. Computer engineering has become a niche and there are few potential employers. Most computer manufacturers assemble computers from components and subsystems from Intel, AMD, TMSC, Nvidia, etc. Although it does require a great deal of expertise, it is not typical of what is taught as CE. Consider what the proposed C…
This, a million times, and is often overlooked.
In fact, I would say that you should try working it out backwards. Find the place where you will really enjoy to live and find the best possible work you can do aligned with or leveraging your current skills with decent prospects for future growth.
Twice in my career, I found work that was interesting but in places where I didn't like to live. And living well is way more important than working!!!
Re: Ask HN: Is Computer Engineering a worthwhile MS degree?
#4Think of how assembly language has become niche, or how web tools help you put together simple UI’s that would previously have taken days. Or relational databases with SQL that killed off the previous generations. We are working on tools that substantially reduce the coding/testing burden, and I’m sure we are not the only ones.
If you focus more on the skills that a CS degree will help you develop you can’t go far wrong, no matter what the future holds.
Re: Ask HN: Is Computer Engineering a worthwhile MS degree?
#5I wouldn’t focus on low level software and hardware. I believe that opportunities in these areas will shrink over time as hardware gets cheaper and newer tools allow people to work at a higher level of abstraction. Think of how assembly language has become niche, or how web tools help you put together simple UI’s that would previously have taken days. Or relational databases with SQL that killed off the previous gene…
Most of the fresh opportunities lie in the area of atoms, real hard tangible problems that software can't solve.
Re: Ask HN: Is Computer Engineering a worthwhile MS degree?
#6I have a bachelor's in CE, but never had a reason to get a masters. Undergrad in-major courses were a mix of regular high level software stuff, but not compilers and things, lightweight software engineering courses about process and awareness of formal methods (in depth formal methods in the Software Engineering major), some embedded systems work, and then a bit of electrical engineering: IIRC, we did some basic chip layout but my school didn't have any fab resources so no practical work there. A little bit of FPGA stuff.
With that degree, I just write software, mostly for servers, at Internet companies. I don't build hardware or anything, but maybe I'd be prepared for an entry level job in hardware, probably get roped into doing drivers though.
Re: Ask HN: Is Computer Engineering a worthwhile MS degree?
#7I wouldn’t focus on low level software and hardware. I believe that opportunities in these areas will shrink over time as hardware gets cheaper and newer tools allow people to work at a higher level of abstraction. Think of how assembly language has become niche, or how web tools help you put together simple UI’s that would previously have taken days. Or relational databases with SQL that killed off the previous gene…
Somebody has to write and maintain the tools that support those abstractions. Then there is the frequent requirement to optimize systems which putting on another layer of abstractions won't solve. Most of the fresh opportunities lie in the area of atoms, real hard tangible problems that software can't solve.
What opportunity do you see in the realm of atoms?
Re: Ask HN: Is Computer Engineering a worthwhile MS degree?
#8It very much depends on where you plan to live and work. Work opportunities are not evenly distributed. Computer engineering has become a niche and there are few potential employers. Most computer manufacturers assemble computers from components and subsystems from Intel, AMD, TMSC, Nvidia, etc. Although it does require a great deal of expertise, it is not typical of what is taught as CE. Consider what the proposed C…
As a part of this degree I’ve also selected coursework that is more related to CS. I’m looking at a compilers class, OS class, and neural networks as well.
With a focus on FPGA do you think that’s broadly applicable and evenly distributed geographically? I am prepared to move for certain industries, like working in space technology
Re: Ask HN: Is Computer Engineering a worthwhile MS degree?
#9What's the underlying reason you're seeking a Master's degree? Do you want a job that requires one? Will it help meet immigration requirements? Are you just seeking knowledge? (probably not a great reason to go) Do you want to learn things that require access to equipment that's not personally attainable, but will be available at a school? I have a bachelor's in CE, but never had a reason to get a masters. Undergrad…
Re: Ask HN: Is Computer Engineering a worthwhile MS degree?
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Somebody has to write and maintain the tools that support those abstractions. Then there is the frequent requirement to optimize systems which putting on another layer of abstractions won't solve. Most of the fresh opportunities lie in the area of atoms, real hard tangible problems that software can't solve.
This is exactly where I’m at with my CS career. I am tired of abstraction. I want to be able to strip it away and work at the lowest levels of the stack. I’ve worked in embedded real-time environments before and found working with the system constraints to be highly rewarding. Yes there are tools that can write and test code for us now, but it’s also true that someone still has to build the low level high performance…