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Re: Two undersea cables in Baltic Sea disrupted

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It'd be nice to see stories about a western navy or two getting off its butt, and actually trying to discourage "accidents" which damage critical infrastructure.

On the other hand, I'd rather see cables get cut than watch shells get lobbed between world powers.

Re: Two undersea cables in Baltic Sea disrupted

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Substantial Russian activity also near UK, raises concerns that Russia would cut off UK. [0]

Russian ships ‘plotting sabotage in the North Sea’ [1]

[0] https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/uk-undersea-...

[1] https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-ships...

Re: Two undersea cables in Baltic Sea disrupted

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post #2

It'd be nice to see stories about a western navy or two getting off its butt, and actually trying to discourage "accidents" which damage critical infrastructure.

On the other hand, I'd rather see cables get cut than watch shells get lobbed between world powers.

at these points, these cable cuts are more dangerous than actual bombs

Re: Two undersea cables in Baltic Sea disrupted

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It'd be nice to see stories about a western navy or two getting off its butt, and actually trying to discourage "accidents" which damage critical infrastructure.

They do already, but do need reinforcement.

>>"“We put in place a National Maritime Information Centre in about 2010 and we needed a Joint Maritime Operations Coordination Centre alongside it, because we said very firmly we have to take threats to our territorial seas and exclusive economic zone very, very seriously.

They are now in place, which is good, but they need to be really reinforced and the departments involved need to fully man them, because otherwise we are not going to be able to counter what is a very real and present threat and could cause major major damage to our nation.”" [0]

[0] https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/uk-undersea-...

Re: Two undersea cables in Baltic Sea disrupted

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the other hand, I'd rather see cables get cut than watch shells get lobbed between world powers.

at these points, these cable cuts are more dangerous than actual bombs

I'm not convinced that cutting an internet cable - even a vital one - results in more actual death and human misery than actual bombs falling on urban centers.

Re: Two undersea cables in Baltic Sea disrupted

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the other hand, I'd rather see cables get cut than watch shells get lobbed between world powers.

at these points, these cable cuts are more dangerous than actual bombs

? Seriously?

Cables getting cut is only dangerous because it’s an escalation that may lead to bombs. There aren’t thousands of civilians dying because Finland doesn’t have high speed fibre to Germany.

Re: Two undersea cables in Baltic Sea disrupted

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

at these points, these cable cuts are more dangerous than actual bombs

I'm not convinced that cutting an internet cable - even a vital one - results in more actual death and human misery than actual bombs falling on urban centers.

There is a point where this kind of aggression, left unchecked, may ultimately lead to actual bombs falling on urban centers. It's already happening in Ukraine. The global peace we all enjoy in the West is based on the idea that the price of aggression is higher than the benefits.
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