Show HN: Proxmox VE Helper Scripts
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Show HN: Proxmox VE Helper Scripts
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#2A bit of a tangent. I've been trying to manage libvirt& Unraid through terraform, but have run into issue after issue. I'm about given up, and will just manage the virtual machines manually...
What's the virtualization technology on proxmox?
What's the advantage to using something like this as opposed to terraform or salt stack or Ansible?
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#3I'll definitely look into the docker LXC and Home Assistant VM. I'd been using docker in a VM on proxmox, successfully mind you, but perhaps there's some more efficiency to squeeze...
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#5I decided to run proxmox on my homelab rather than having a k8s setup, and I've come to sort of regret it. LXCs are awesome, but being bound to just them or qemu VMs doesn't fit all of my needs. With Kubernetes I could just add support for lightweight VMs (Firecracker hypervisor, or unikernels or something) with a project like Kata. Proxmox is just not extensible.
It's also just not amenable to automation or reproducible builds in the same way as an established pod manager like Kubernetes: there's no support that I can find for Terraform, and so you're stuck with regular full-disk backups and maybe some Chef/Ansible/Puppet tooling, which I don't want to invest in [re]learning.
Still, very cool resource management and passthrough model, and it's easy to set up and maintain, with a nice control panel.
Re: Show HN: Proxmox VE Helper Scripts
#6A bit of a tangent. I've been trying to manage libvirt& Unraid through terraform, but have run into issue after issue. I'm about given up, and will just manage the virtual machines manually... What's the virtualization technology on proxmox? What's the advantage to using something like this as opposed to terraform or salt stack or Ansible?
proxmox is using KVM for virtualization and Linux Containers (LXC) for the containers. I agree that something like terraform and/or ansible would make more sense for an IAC (infrastructure as code) deployment. Most of the people I talk to that use proxmox for a homelab prefer to do things manually and don't bother with any IAC implementation.
For work I'm a firm believer in reproducible environments and IAC. We actually a combination of vagrant, libvirt, and KVM to spin up local clusters for quick testing and development. It works out pretty well, but in my homelab I don't have anything complicated enough to bother setting up terraform/ansible for. Although I imagine if my server crashed I probably wouldn't think that way anymore.
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#7I'll definitely look into the docker LXC and Home Assistant VM. I'd been using docker in a VM on proxmox, successfully mind you, but perhaps there's some more efficiency to squeeze...
HAOS as a VM on proxmox works well.
I used some of tteck's helper scripts to set up mqtt and zigbee2mqtt LXC containers with a passthrough of the USB zigbee device.
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#8I decided to run proxmox on my homelab rather than having a k8s setup, and I've come to sort of regret it. LXCs are awesome, but being bound to just them or qemu VMs doesn't fit all of my needs. With Kubernetes I could just add support for lightweight VMs (Firecracker hypervisor, or unikernels or something) with a project like Kata. Proxmox is just not extensible. It's also just not amenable to automation or reproduc…
I've pretty thoroughly drunk the NixOS Kool-aid.
For awhile I ran Docker Swarm with a bunch of SBCs, then k8s, then just a big server running Ubuntu + Cockpit, then Proxmox, until I have finally settled on NixOS.
NixOS has decent container support if necessary, but I've found that its declarative nature means I almost never bother with containers. "Uninstalling" something is generally as simple as "remove it from the config file, rebuild", and it's not hard to do cgroupey stuff if you need to manage memory and the like.
Not to mention that I think NixOS's nginx DSL is wonderful. It's so nice being able to have my proxy configs (along with LetsEncrypt) managed directly (and correctly) by the config environment instead of me writing my own scripts and the like.
(I'm not sure if there are any distributed NixOS things, because I could totally see something neat being built on Flakes)
My homelab has never been simpler and I've never been happier with it.
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#9Along with the submitter, I am also on the team of maintainers who volunteered to help with maintenance of this project after tteck's sad news that they were entering hospice (1). The team members are all motivated individuals, who are enthusiastic on carrying on tteck's legacy.
We are moving forward in a transparent manner and I am more than happy to answer any questions.
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#10I decided to run proxmox on my homelab rather than having a k8s setup, and I've come to sort of regret it. LXCs are awesome, but being bound to just them or qemu VMs doesn't fit all of my needs. With Kubernetes I could just add support for lightweight VMs (Firecracker hypervisor, or unikernels or something) with a project like Kata. Proxmox is just not extensible. It's also just not amenable to automation or reproduc…
It's certainly a different model of deployment. I like it, though it does have its warts.
However there is a (community) TF module...? https://registry.terraform.io/providers/Telmate/proxmox/late... (I have no experience with it as I typically reach for Ansible).
Also, easy-to-install ZFS makes it hard for me to cajol myself into trying something else. And if I want k8s for play time I can always spin up (a/some) VM(s).