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The EdTech Revolution Has Failed

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Re: The EdTech Revolution Has Failed

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This is interesting, and I think plausible, but I find it... surprisinging that the evidence base is so poor. Like, I know entire states have banned smart-phones now, can we see those effects yet? If it's anywhere near as powerful as the author suggests, surely we should?

The second question I have is about the outcome variable on these (but I realise I should probably just go read the damn research) - is it possible that letting people use phone teaches digital skills, at the cost of traditional spelling, for instance?

Re: The EdTech Revolution Has Failed

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Was one of the goals with EdTech to sort of gamify learning to get kids more engaged or something? I could imagine a scenario where some kids learn more by a paper / pencil / book modality and would do worse learning from an iPad— while other kids who are totally disengaged might learn something at all from an iPad so that’s better than nothing?

Re: The EdTech Revolution Has Failed

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The article doesn't match the conclusion. The buried lede: procrastinating with the Internet is easier than procrastinating without the Internet.

If you care about your kids, control their access to the brain rotting aspects of technology like a tyrant.

Re: The EdTech Revolution Has Failed

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post #3

Was one of the goals with EdTech to sort of gamify learning to get kids more engaged or something? I could imagine a scenario where some kids learn more by a paper / pencil / book modality and would do worse learning from an iPad— while other kids who are totally disengaged might learn something at all from an iPad so that’s better than nothing?

My daughter has learned more arithmetic in 200 minutes with flash cards and a sticker board than in a year with her school’s tablets

I think the goal is to give kids screens so they’ll quit bugging their teacher

Re: The EdTech Revolution Has Failed

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How much of this student screen time is spent on:

- Khan Academy

- playing games such as _Dragon Box_ (which teaches the principles of math and esp. algebra)

- reading and using books such as:

https://mathcs.clarku.edu/~djoyce/java/elements/elements.htm...

https://www.motionmountain.net/

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/the-elements-by-theodore-gray/...

and at the elementary level texts such as: _Just Grandma & Me_ https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wanderfuls...

and how much of it is what else?

Re: The EdTech Revolution Has Failed

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post #3

Was one of the goals with EdTech to sort of gamify learning to get kids more engaged or something? I could imagine a scenario where some kids learn more by a paper / pencil / book modality and would do worse learning from an iPad— while other kids who are totally disengaged might learn something at all from an iPad so that’s better than nothing?

My daughter has learned more arithmetic in 200 minutes with flash cards and a sticker board than in a year with her school’s tablets I think the goal is to give kids screens so they’ll quit bugging their teacher

Arithmetic is one of the places software excels. Fast Math is ubiquitous. Where do you think the friction for your daughter was?

Re: The EdTech Revolution Has Failed

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The key point:

> Seeing as the great majority of students spend over 80% of their digital device time using these tools to multitask, the automatic response for a great majority of students using these tools has become multitasking.. Unfortunately, when we attempt to employ digital devices for learning purposes, this primary function quickly bleeds into student behavior.

> This is why, when using a computer for homework, students typically last fewer than 6 minutes before accessing social media, messaging friends, and engaging with other digital distractions. This is why, when using a laptop during class, students typically spend 38 minutes of every hour off-task. This is why, when getting paid as part of a research study to focus on a 20-minute computerized lesson, nearly 40% of students were unable to stop themselves from multitasking. It’s not that the students of today have abnormally weak constitutions; it’s that they have spent thousands of hours training themselves to use digital devices in a manner guaranteed to impair learning and performance. It’s also that many of the apps being run on those devices were carefully engineered to pull young people away from whatever they were doing.

> And perhaps this is the key point: I’m not saying that digital technologies can’t be used for learning; in fact, if these tools were only ever employed for learning purposes, then they may have proven some of the most important academic inventions ever. The argument I’m making is that digital technologies so often aren’t used for learning that giving students a laptop, tablet, or other multi-function device places a large (and unnecessary) obstacle between the student and the desired outcome. In order to effectively learn while using an unlocked, internet-connected multi-function digital device, students must expend a great deal of cognitive effort battling impulses that they’ve spent years honing - a battle they lose more often than not. (of course schools do often try to implement blockers and restrictions, but this opens up an eternal cat-and-mouse struggle, and the mice are very good at finding ways to evade the cat.)

Re: The EdTech Revolution Has Failed

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I work in EdTech, I have for a very long time now, and the problem I have seen is no one in education is willing to ACTUALLY let kids learn at their own level.

The promise of EdTech was that kids could learn where they are. A kid who's behind can actually continue to learn rather than being left behind. A kid who's ahead can be nurtured.

We had this. It worked well, in my opinion at least, and the number of complaints and straight up threats because kids would learn things "they shouldn't be" was just… insanely frustrating.

Now in order to keep schools paying for our services, every kid is banded into a range based on their grade. They are scored/graded based on their grade level rather than their growth. It's such a crying shame.

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