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The Lost Reading Items of Ilya Sutskever's AI Reading List

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Re: The Lost Reading Items of Ilya Sutskever's AI Reading List

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Why not just ask him? > The rest allegedly fell victim to the E-Mail deletion policy at OpenAI. I have never worked in a place that deleted emails. And OpenAI is not even that big or old. I suppose I am not surprised.

On the flip side I have never worked at a company that did not have retention policy. This includes startups and large corporate companies. Retention policies are pretty common.

Re: The Lost Reading Items of Ilya Sutskever's AI Reading List

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Why not just ask him? > The rest allegedly fell victim to the E-Mail deletion policy at OpenAI. I have never worked in a place that deleted emails. And OpenAI is not even that big or old. I suppose I am not surprised.

The Hacker News link he references (which seems to quote Carmack from personal communication) says Meta, not OpenAI.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34646759

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Why not just ask him? > The rest allegedly fell victim to the E-Mail deletion policy at OpenAI. I have never worked in a place that deleted emails. And OpenAI is not even that big or old. I suppose I am not surprised.

In a lot of big coporat-ey places, there is a very restrictive retention policy due to legal reasons.

If your stated IT policy is that "all mail is automatically deleted after 3 months" then that reduces your risk to discovery procedures. And since it is a published, global policy, you cannot be held in contempt of court of prosecuted for destruction of evidence.

Re: The Lost Reading Items of Ilya Sutskever's AI Reading List

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Why not just ask him? > The rest allegedly fell victim to the E-Mail deletion policy at OpenAI. I have never worked in a place that deleted emails. And OpenAI is not even that big or old. I suppose I am not surprised.

The Hacker News link he references (which seems to quote Carmack from personal communication) says Meta, not OpenAI. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34646759

Author here, good catch! Thanks for pointing this out, I added a note with a correction now.

Re: The Lost Reading Items of Ilya Sutskever's AI Reading List

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Why not just ask him? > The rest allegedly fell victim to the E-Mail deletion policy at OpenAI. I have never worked in a place that deleted emails. And OpenAI is not even that big or old. I suppose I am not surprised.

In a lot of big coporat-ey places, there is a very restrictive retention policy due to legal reasons. If your stated IT policy is that "all mail is automatically deleted after 3 months" then that reduces your risk to discovery procedures. And since it is a published, global policy, you cannot be held in contempt of court of prosecuted for destruction of evidence.

I actually have a very hard time believing that a court is going to find that a company that only retains emails for three months isn't doing something like engaging in spoliation.