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Magic Circle tries to track down first female member – who posed as a man

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Re: Magic Circle tries to track down first female member – who posed as a man

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This sounds like borderline stalking. I am not a woman, but I have my experience with getting treated unfairly/getting patronized. And I never felt like I wanted to give a bad actor a second chance to talk down to me, even if they pretend to have good intentions. If you fucked someone over, you dont have the right to run after them. Leave them alone, stop confronting them over and over again with your own stupidity.

Re: Magic Circle tries to track down first female member – who posed as a man

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post #2

This sounds like borderline stalking. I am not a woman, but I have my experience with getting treated unfairly/getting patronized. And I never felt like I wanted to give a bad actor a second chance to talk down to me, even if they pretend to have good intentions. If you fucked someone over, you dont have the right to run after them. Leave them alone, stop confronting them over and over again with your own stupidity.

I think the new circle is somewhat different from the last one?

Also I don't think it is stalking, when they did not even found her. If they did and she said go away, and they pressured on - that would be stalking. As of now, it is likely she does not even know about it.

Re: Magic Circle tries to track down first female member – who posed as a man

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I don't understand the story, can someone explain? What I got is they try to track someone who was expelled for misrepresentation. Why? What is different today vs 30 years ago?

The organization first was male-only. A woman disguised herself as a man, and managed to join the organization. 18 months later, the organization stopped being male-only and would start accepting women to join too. The disguised woman undisguised herself, and the existing members got shocked enough that even if women were now allowed, they were so angry at her "deliberate deception" that she got kicked out regardless.

Now the organization wants to allow that same woman to join again, but they cannot find her apparently.

Re: Magic Circle tries to track down first female member – who posed as a man

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post #6
post #5

I don't understand the story, can someone explain? What I got is they try to track someone who was expelled for misrepresentation. Why? What is different today vs 30 years ago?

The organization first was male-only. A woman disguised herself as a man, and managed to join the organization. 18 months later, the organization stopped being male-only and would start accepting women to join too. The disguised woman undisguised herself, and the existing members got shocked enough that even if women were now allowed, they were so angry at her "deliberate deception" that she got kicked out regardless…

The irony of a bunch of magicians being angry at deception was lost on them it seems.

Re: Magic Circle tries to track down first female member – who posed as a man

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post #9

Magic Circle, is that something everyone is expected to know what is?

Folks in the UK are likely to: it is the professional guild for magicians.

Or, informal term for a group of corporate law firms based in the UK. It wasn't clear to me what the article was actually about until the very end, not sure why didn't feel like spending at least one sentence making it clear up front who they're talking about.
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