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Forget CDK and AWS's insane costs. Pulumi and DigitalOcean to the rescue

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Re: Forget CDK and AWS's insane costs. Pulumi and DigitalOcean to the rescue

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Post by mavdi »

Hi everyone,

We've gone through a lot of pain to get this blueprint working since our AWS costs were getting out of hand but we didn't want to part ways with CDK.

We've now got the same stack structure going with Pulumi and Digital ocean, having the same ease of development with at least 60% cost reduction.

Re: Forget CDK and AWS's insane costs. Pulumi and DigitalOcean to the rescue

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Post by vundercind »

mavdi wrote: post #2

Hi everyone, We've gone through a lot of pain to get this blueprint working since our AWS costs were getting out of hand but we didn't want to part ways with CDK. We've now got the same stack structure going with Pulumi and Digital ocean, having the same ease of development with at least 60% cost reduction.

Keep an eye on reachability and performance. I’ve seen DO consistently perform terribly and/or drop connections for months (that is, didn’t look like some brief routing glitch somewhere) for some US and Canadian routes (not, like, Sri Lanka or something) on excellent Internet connections. The fix was moving to AWS, problem gone. It felt like a shitty-peering-agreements issue.

Re: Forget CDK and AWS's insane costs. Pulumi and DigitalOcean to the rescue

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Post by mati365 »

petcat wrote: post #6

Kubernetes no thanks. Terraform + Kamal [1] on Digital Ocean is the way I deploy/run apps now. [1] https://kamal-deploy.org/

Plain Podman systemd integration is way more powerful and secure, as it does not mess with firewall and allows to run rootless containers using services. It's even possible to run healthchecks and enforce building images just before starting service making on-demand containers using systemd-proxyd possible. Check example: https://github.com/Mati365/hetzner-podman-bunjs-deploy

Re: Forget CDK and AWS's insane costs. Pulumi and DigitalOcean to the rescue

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Post by petcat »

mati365 wrote: post #7
petcat wrote: post #6

Kubernetes no thanks. Terraform + Kamal [1] on Digital Ocean is the way I deploy/run apps now. [1] https://kamal-deploy.org/

Plain Podman systemd integration is way more powerful and secure, as it does not mess with firewall and allows to run rootless containers using services. It's even possible to run healthchecks and enforce building images just before starting service making on-demand containers using systemd-proxyd possible. Check example: https://github.com/Mati365/hetzner-podman-bunjs-deploy

> way more powerful and secure

I don't care about powerful. That's the opposite of what I want. I could just use k8s if I cared about that.

Re: Forget CDK and AWS's insane costs. Pulumi and DigitalOcean to the rescue

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Post by GauntletWizard »

mise_en_place wrote: post #5

EKS has become a clusterf*ck to manage and provision. This looks very useful. Bare metal k8s, even running on EC2, might be another option.

You don't choose EKS because it's easy to manage. You choose it because you intend to use the bevy of other AWS hosted services. The clusterfuck of management is directly related to that.

The alternative, which I feel is far too common (and I say this as someone who directly benefits from it): You choose AWS because it's a "Safe" choice and your incubator gets you a bunch of free credits for a year or two. You pay nothing for compute for the first year, but instead pay a devops guy a bunch to do all the setup - In the end it's about a wash because you have to pay a devops guy to handle your CI and deploy anyway, you're just paying a little more in the latter.

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