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Legal bid for Ecuador forest to be recognised as song co-creator

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Re: Legal bid for Ecuador forest to be recognised as song co-creator

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Probably not everyone's cup of tea but it's not bad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxRjncYGLHE (Cosmo Sheldrake is one of the composers, so this seems to be an original upload of the song.)

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Re: Legal bid for Ecuador forest to be recognised as song co-creator

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> If the agency grants moral authorship to the forest alongside the song’s co-creators, it is expected that copyright authorities in other nations would have to acknowledge the same moral authorship.

So is this really meant as some kind of backdoor activist legal hack (e.g. use this copyright case to ultimately change the environmental policy of some major countries)? It smells a little like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_selfie_copyright_disput... [1].

[1] Also the coda of that monkey case is a pretty good example of the value of copyright outside the MPAA/RIAA/Reed Elsevier/etc. focus pushed by anti-IP activists.

Re: Legal bid for Ecuador forest to be recognised as song co-creator

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post #6

> If the agency grants moral authorship to the forest alongside the song’s co-creators, it is expected that copyright authorities in other nations would have to acknowledge the same moral authorship. So is this really meant as some kind of backdoor activist legal hack (e.g. use this copyright case to ultimately change the environmental policy of some major countries)? It smells a little like https://en.wikipedia.org/…

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Re: Legal bid for Ecuador forest to be recognised as song co-creator

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Would subways, oceans, individual birds and roadways also be eligible for this kind of authorship as well when they are included in songs or sounds-tracks?

I don't see how this would succeed without opening a can of worms that would muddy a whole lot of things.

Re: Legal bid for Ecuador forest to be recognised as song co-creator

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post #6

> If the agency grants moral authorship to the forest alongside the song’s co-creators, it is expected that copyright authorities in other nations would have to acknowledge the same moral authorship. So is this really meant as some kind of backdoor activist legal hack (e.g. use this copyright case to ultimately change the environmental policy of some major countries)? It smells a little like https://en.wikipedia.org/…

> If the agency grants moral authorship to the forest alongside the song’s co-creators, it is expected that copyright authorities in other nations would have to acknowledge the same moral authorship.

That sounds unlikely. Just because one country does something silly does not mean other countries have to follow suit.

Re: Legal bid for Ecuador forest to be recognised as song co-creator

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Its stupid to try and assign copyright to things that aren't legal persons. At the end of the day, copyright holders have to make decisions about how to exercise their rights, which makes no sense for a tree.

Instead people should just assign the copyright to some sort of trust or non-profit dedicated to the forest.

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