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Jaywalking legalized in New York City

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Re: Jaywalking legalized in New York City

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Not growing up in america I never understood what jaywalking was - I legit assumed it was a pedestrian crossing a freeway because nothing else made sense. Growing up I was taught explicitly to do what in the US was a crime: crossing between intersections because it is vastly safer than crossing at intersections.

Obviously, there's a more complex issue with jaywalking where it is a crime that is trivially easy to enforce in a discriminatory manner, and it creates endless opportunities for pretextual searches once NY's clearly unconstitutional stop-and-frisk laws were overturned.

Re: Jaywalking legalized in New York City

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Not growing up in america I never understood what jaywalking was - I legit assumed it was a pedestrian crossing a freeway because nothing else made sense. Growing up I was taught explicitly to do what in the US was a crime: crossing between intersections because it is vastly safer than crossing at intersections. Obviously, there's a more complex issue with jaywalking where it is a crime that is trivially easy to enfo…

Jaywalking is any crossing in a wrong / illegal way, not about intersections specifically. Mostly it's about not using crosswalks, so I don't see how it collides with what Europe does.

In Europe you also have differences with some countries where crosswalk lights are as a mandate from God and nobody will cross even at 2am deserted road. And then you have countries where the crosswalk lights are mere decorations.

Re: Jaywalking legalized in New York City

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Not growing up in america I never understood what jaywalking was - I legit assumed it was a pedestrian crossing a freeway because nothing else made sense. Growing up I was taught explicitly to do what in the US was a crime: crossing between intersections because it is vastly safer than crossing at intersections. Obviously, there's a more complex issue with jaywalking where it is a crime that is trivially easy to enfo…

Do you not have pedestrian crossings/stoplights for pedestrians in your country?

Re: Jaywalking legalized in New York City

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I kind of wonder now whether that was the most broken law in history.

Asking pedestrians to cross streets where cars are stopped and they are mostly protected? How is that broken?

I’m guessing they meant most frequently broken.

But as someone who lives in a country that has never had that law, I’m pretty sure it’s unnecessary.

Re: Jaywalking legalized in New York City

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I kind of wonder now whether that was the most broken law in history.

Asking pedestrians to cross streets where cars are stopped and they are mostly protected? How is that broken?

Not broken in terms of design and intent, but broken by people all the time. As in "I broke the law, and the law won"
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