Is this considered creepy in all cultures?
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Is this considered creepy in all cultures?
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Re: Is this considered creepy in all cultures?
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#3I think the issue is the lack of consent. The data is freely available and anyone who wants to use it to compile lists of Perl developers can do so, but if you're going to put up a list of female developers without a) asking them first and b) presenting it in a context that anticipates and avoids the gender-politics objections to doing so, then you're going to get a negative reaction. It's probably something that shouldn't be creepy even without consent and carefully-honed context, or at least no creepier than a list of Russian Perl developers or Perl developers who use Windows or whatever, but that's not the world we live in.
It looks like an honest enough mistake, but I guess we're going to have to listen to another bunch of white male community guardians parading their feminist credentials and belittling the original developer for his backwards lack of understanding anyway.
Re: Is this considered creepy in all cultures?
#4It is not creepy in all fields. It is creepy in computer programming/science.
The problem is the culture in this special field with a lot of allusion to pornography, sexual abuse, etc. When you have well known figures in the Ruby community explicitly telling that it is good to use porn to sell software technology, you have a problem.
In my field, process engineering and biotechnology, even if some groups are extremely male dominated, I have never experienced such behavior in more than a decade of going to workshop/conferences and working with 100's of people all over the world.
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Re: Is this considered creepy in all cultures?
#6I think the issue is the lack of consent. The data is freely available and anyone who wants to use it to compile lists of Perl developers can do so, but if you're going to put up a list of female developers without a) asking them first and b) presenting it in a context that anticipates and avoids the gender-politics objections to doing so, then you're going to get a negative reaction. It's probably something that sho…
So far, the only 3rd party blogpost on this linked here (Michael G Schwern's [1]) didn't link to the module nor author, so as not to "embarrass the author further". Many males serious about feminism (or "anti-patriarchy", whatever you want to call it) take care to not provoke costs which females must bear, and try to helpfully inform.
Now, if you don't want to listen, please don't feel you're forced to. There's... exciting... frontpage articles here about PHP, something Steve Jobs said, a boat which flips vertically...
[1] (http://blogs.perl.org/users/michael_g_schwern/2012/07/how-no...)
Re: Is this considered creepy in all cultures?
#7Wow. This thing is totally inappropriate and extremely creepy in all contexts. Out of "sheer curiosity"? Jeepers.
I hope this gets removed.
Great message to send to the women in the tech industry: come join our community and we'll single you out in a git repository like a museum exhibit. Even better, the whole thing is a perl script, so anyone can programmatically do whatever they want with your personal information! It's all for curiosity's sake!
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#8website doesn't seem to work for me. what was it?
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#9You could look at it in a positive light if you want - as a list of inspiration. (I can't actually see the list, so I'm going by the description as a list of female developers.)
Personally I don't think the developers gender matters - who cares if a developer is male or female? That's not the context in which you are interacting with them.
Re: Is this considered creepy in all cultures?
#10It is not creepy in all fields. It is creepy in computer programming/science. The problem is the culture in this special field with a lot of allusion to pornography, sexual abuse, etc. When you have well known figures in the Ruby community explicitly telling that it is good to use porn to sell software technology, you have a problem. In my field, process engineering and biotechnology, even if some groups are extremel…
"Sex sells" is the big indictment of Ruby (and programming in general) community?