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Open Source on its own is no alternative to Big Tech

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Re: Open Source on its own is no alternative to Big Tech

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Countries have run nationalise infrastructure before, and successfully. The problem is if they did not view it as nationalised infrastructure and instead viewed it as some sort of mana that would fall from open source heaven.

Open source software is the building blocks used by large rent (service fee) seeking corporations. They will extract large profits from any of these contracts and that is a demonstrable fact, they are also nearly all from the USA and so those profits will flow in one particular direction. It is also a historical fact that governments have run successful large scale infrastructure. Make your choice.

Re: Open Source on its own is no alternative to Big Tech

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Another elephant in the room is that many of the popular open source projects are funded by big tech. Hard to be an alternative when you serve the same master.

And it's also not great when companies that are positioned as implementation open source and cloud closed (read: AWS/Azure/GCP reseller) also construct strange licenses that are inherently against traditional OSS values.

Re: Open Source on its own is no alternative to Big Tech

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Been ranting about this for years, did a keynote about it, actually did two notes at several venues, including an open culture festival, and all I got was a silent dis.

every now and then open source is suggested as superior, because being free. Zero comment on code quality, who wrote it, why it came to be in the first place.

Even the argument that a host running open source makes delivery more trustworthy is super biased - major cognitive dissonance is that services based on open tech are very often not open, neither auditable.

There’s a lot of open source being controlled by same large corporations and the part that is not, does not constitute a service on its own.

Then we must admit it takes a lot of care taking care of services nobody else cares about (by means of support).

While open source is important for academia, I think open results are more important for government. Like I don’t care what somebody used to cater to this geospatial data, or that image. I care about the data that went in and went out. Open data is much more important in the era of open weights and closed sources training sets.

The general public is often misled to equate open source to free beer. Well that is also not entirely correct given plethora of not so free licenses. Asp not correct as costs are greater when you put the personnel running that service in the equation. I can see how this argument does not fly well with socialist ideologies, but that’s problem of ideology, not of costs or technology.

Even if we consider only those open projects which are also free - these come with less guaranties than a pair of second hand shoes bought from random store.

Don’t get me wrong - open source is great and we use it daily, but comparing means of distribution with quality of service is really like comparing ябълки и круши (apples and pears in Bulgarian). So it’s indeed time to stop blindly waving the open source flag, but actually try to understand the benefits and challenges it comes with.

Re: Open Source on its own is no alternative to Big Tech

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It was a pipe dream, because at the end of the day not everything can be a side job, to compete against those that spend at least 8h day producing code.

Then the whole issue with non-copyleft licenses, that are nothing other than the old Whateverware or Public Domain licenses from the 16 bit home computer days.

We already had access to source code back then.

And for a large crowd this is already good enough, they aren't into it for religious definitions.

Re: Open Source on its own is no alternative to Big Tech

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Countries have run nationalise infrastructure before, and successfully. The problem is if they did not view it as nationalised infrastructure and instead viewed it as some sort of mana that would fall from open source heaven. Open source software is the building blocks used by large rent (service fee) seeking corporations. They will extract large profits from any of these contracts and that is a demonstrable fact, th…

But it does run it in a particular way that isn't necessarily as profitable which in this example is a good thing.

imho the question should be if the country continues to function if the project goes bankrupt. If it is so essential that it needs to be saved by the government (even in theory) then it lives outside the domain of capitalism.

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