Getting Called "Paid Actor" by Linus Torvalds
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Getting Called "Paid Actor" by Linus Torvalds
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#2Related:
Linus Torvalds comments on the Russian Linux maintainers being delisted
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#3Can't read on mobile. Why do these people still use hard line breaks?
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#4> referring to the existence of said law or NDA itself seems to be the minimum for transparency
If it’s being done under the aegis of national security then they might not be allowed to discuss it.
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#5I think Linus has short temper and there are examples of his remarks that are borderline toxic (or cross the line), but this really isn't one of them.
The situation is pretty clear and calmly explained by Linus in the quoted messages. They removed contributors from Russia. The main reason is that they were told by a lawyer that they need to do this due to international sanctions. The secondary reason appears to be that Linus is not a fan of what Russia is doing, and is OK with sending a message.
They made a call and were immediately swarmed by people trying to argue geopolitics, law, personal responsibility, transparency, and so on - many of whom aren't regular kernel contributors. Linus responded that he's not going to argue, and I can't blame him: it's a software project, not a discussion club. Sometimes, maintainers make the call and you suck it up, leave, or fork it. This is just that.
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#7Can't read on mobile. Why do these people still use hard line breaks?
You could try your browser's Reader View functionality. The page works fine enough, at least in Firefox mobile, after choosing Reader View.
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#8Such hardworking Russian bots, wow. They wrote WHOLE 20+ emails in several hours!
Linus just dehumanized everyone who dares to disagree with the change and/or ask about why it was done on the 3rd year of the war (an increasingly common way of dealing with opponents, unfortunately). No one even tries to explain why this "compliance" selectively applies to ru emails (oh, look the maintainer has graduated from the Moscow State University! He is surely a Putin agent!), but not to Huawei ones. And how reverting the change became equivalent to "supporting Russian aggression" I simply can not comprehend.
Today he has dealt a huge damage to the Linux reputation among non-Western developers. Do not act surprised when, for example, Chinese developers and organizations will start behave accordingly.
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#9I think Linus has short temper and there are examples of his remarks that are borderline toxic (or cross the line), but this really isn't one of them. The situation is pretty clear and calmly explained by Linus in the quoted messages. They removed contributors from Russia. The main reason is that they were told by a lawyer that they need to do this due to international sanctions. The secondary reason appears to be th…
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Re: Getting Called "Paid Actor" by Linus Torvalds
#10I think Linus has short temper and there are examples of his remarks that are borderline toxic (or cross the line), but this really isn't one of them. The situation is pretty clear and calmly explained by Linus in the quoted messages. They removed contributors from Russia. The main reason is that they were told by a lawyer that they need to do this due to international sanctions. The secondary reason appears to be th…
Absolutely. And regarding Linus' skepticism towards russian emails, my tiny hobby projects get tons of russian spam (and others), I can't imagine what Linux boards get. It must be really hard to trust new or infrequent users.