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Intelsat 33e breaks up in geostationary orbit

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Re: Intelsat 33e breaks up in geostationary orbit

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It is particularly bad for a satellite in geostationary orbit to break up or fail. Satellites are packed as tightly as possible into that orbit due to its economic importance (it's very useful for a satellite, particularly communications satellites, to always be over the same part of the Earth), so there is a higher than normal likelihood that this could be seriously disruptive.

Re: Intelsat 33e breaks up in geostationary orbit

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It is particularly bad for a satellite in geostationary orbit to break up or fail. Satellites are packed as tightly as possible into that orbit due to its economic importance (it's very useful for a satellite, particularly communications satellites, to always be over the same part of the Earth), so there is a higher than normal likelihood that this could be seriously disruptive.

Indeed, Intelsat 33e has a couple nearby neighbors in similar orbits and inclinations.

    ID      Name                    Orbit   Incl.
    98050A  ASTRA 2A                57.2    4.93
    09017A  WGS F2 (USA 204)        57.5    0.01
    14023B  KAZSAT-3                58.5    0.02
    12008A  BEIDOU-2 G5             58.7    2.10
    16053B  INTELSAT 33E (IS-33E)   60.0    0.04 
https://www.satsig.net/sslist.htm

Re: Intelsat 33e breaks up in geostationary orbit

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post #3
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For some context: The same Boeing satellite bus already experienced a major issue some years ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19658800

The complete collapse of Boeing needs to be studied.

They should teach it in every MBA program in the country /s.

Re: Intelsat 33e breaks up in geostationary orbit

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> ... satellite maker Boeing to address an anomaly that emerged earlier that day, but “believe it is unlikely that the satellite will be recoverable.”

Yeah, the satellite disintegrates and they call it an "anomaly" and "unlikely that the satellite will be recoverable". This response is even funnier than "the front fell off" sketch.

I feel like it's time to class Boeing as not only inept but a dangerously inept organisation.

Re: Intelsat 33e breaks up in geostationary orbit

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The complete collapse of Boeing needs to be studied.

They should teach it in every MBA program in the country /s.

You joke, but it absolutely should. Boeing is a great example of "when all you have is a hammer, everything is a nail". When MBAs are left in charge with no guardrails, this is what can happen. That's a great thing to teach to new MBAs. Every field has this potential pitfall. When you hyperfocus, bad things can happen. Know when to say when.

Re: Intelsat 33e breaks up in geostationary orbit

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It is particularly bad for a satellite in geostationary orbit to break up or fail. Satellites are packed as tightly as possible into that orbit due to its economic importance (it's very useful for a satellite, particularly communications satellites, to always be over the same part of the Earth), so there is a higher than normal likelihood that this could be seriously disruptive.

- "Satellites are packed as tightly as possible into that orbit due to its economic importance"

Note that that's in the sense of angular separation, as viewed from the ground. They're physically hundreds of kilometers apart.

edit: (Geostationary orbits are ~42,000 km from the Earth center-of-mass; each degree of angle is an arc of ~700 km).

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