Worldcoin has a new Orb and is now just World
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Worldcoin has a new Orb and is now just World
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#2When I first was interested in cryptocurrency, or Bitcoin, this is the sort of thing which made me excited. The idea of a new currency outside of the control of states or banks, which will take back the power for ordinary people.
It soon stopped being about that and about "hodl" and self-enrichment. I applaud this project for being in the original spirit of Bitcoin.
I've since come to realise that the important thing is not how we organise our currency, but how we structure our social relations. We could have this currency, or Bitcoin or whatever be the global standard, but it would make no difference to our social relations based on wage labour for the owners of capital.
We are not going to solve that problem with technocratic solutions but with the working class taking power for themselves.
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#3Unrelated, but it is a fascinating thought that when each of us dies there will have been exactly one thing that counts as The Stupidest Thing You Have Ever Seen. Much like we probably won’t know what sandwich will be our last, we likely won’t know if our current Stupidest Thing will be topped, so it is good to recognize and savor those moments when they happen.
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#4When I first was interested in cryptocurrency, or Bitcoin, this is the sort of thing which made me excited. The idea of a new currency outside of the control of states or banks, which will take back the power for ordinary people. It soon stopped being about that and about "hodl" and self-enrichment. I applaud this project for being in the original spirit of Bitcoin. I've since come to realise that the important thing…
I don't want to be the wet blanket... but this is just another "crypto bro" peddling yet another scam, err... "ICO". Only this time the elite's behind the project will have everyone's biometric data too.
> with the working class taking power for themselves
This is exactly the opposite of that. Sam has a rocky history with conflicts-of-interest and self-promotion. I don't see any reason we should trust him or his organization with this attempted consolidation of economic and identity powers.
FTA:
> Last year, Kenya suspended World while it investigated its practices surrounding data collection (it has since dropped its investigation). Hong Kong asked World to stop all operations in the country over privacy risks, while both Portugal and Spain have also taken action against the project.
Re: Worldcoin has a new Orb and is now just World
#5Unrelated, but it is a fascinating thought that when each of us dies there will have been exactly one thing that counts as The Stupidest Thing You Have Ever Seen. Much like we probably won’t know what sandwich will be our last, we likely won’t know if our current Stupidest Thing will be topped, so it is good to recognize and savor those moments when they happen.
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Re: Worldcoin has a new Orb and is now just World
#6So if I understand this right, this is a physical thing you stand in front of to prove that you are a unique human before making some transaction with another possibly unique human...
Re: Worldcoin has a new Orb and is now just World
#7When I first was interested in cryptocurrency, or Bitcoin, this is the sort of thing which made me excited. The idea of a new currency outside of the control of states or banks, which will take back the power for ordinary people. It soon stopped being about that and about "hodl" and self-enrichment. I applaud this project for being in the original spirit of Bitcoin. I've since come to realise that the important thing…
I'm glad you came around, yes the correct solution is to eat Sam Altman and not to let him invent his own private currency.
Re: Worldcoin has a new Orb and is now just World
#8When I first was interested in cryptocurrency, or Bitcoin, this is the sort of thing which made me excited. The idea of a new currency outside of the control of states or banks, which will take back the power for ordinary people. It soon stopped being about that and about "hodl" and self-enrichment. I applaud this project for being in the original spirit of Bitcoin. I've since come to realise that the important thing…
> It soon stopped being about that
I submit that it could never have actually been about that. It may have been out of the states control but it was far to technocratic and dependent on first movers so it was always going to leave behind the class of people you hoped it would most benefit.
> the original spirit of Bitcoin
Is effectively "you don't need permission." That's _it_. People projected quite a bit onto that.
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#9So if I understand this right, this is a physical thing you stand in front of to prove that you are a unique human before making some transaction with another possibly unique human...
Well, kind of. It's also a physical thing that you stand in front of to give up a bunch of biometric information to go in some database somewhere for...some reason that is unspecified. The fact that they're doing it "for free" suggests to me that there is some purpose to it that makes it profitable in spite of the costs. Given how much everyone's data is actually worth, I suspect that the reason it's free is because the biometric data has a bunch of intrinsic value such that it's worth building a bunch of hardware and giving away monopoly money.
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#10I'm sure there's already a plan to monetize and privatize what's soon to be the most valuable biometric database on earth.
Plus it's cute how they developed the problem [reaction] solution in parallel. [1]
> Something like World ID will eventually exist, meaning that you will need to verify [that you are human] on the internet, whether you like it or not. I think that's certainly going to happen with the progress in AI.
Par for the course for the Davos types.
[1] https://www.coindesk.com/consensus-magazine/2023/07/10/an-or...