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Therapeutic Benefits of Alcohol?

#1
I'm one of those agoraphobics that can't leave my house. I'm literally trapped. However a single drink allows me to go about my daily life without having panic attacks. I've asked many times and doctors won't prescribe benzodiaspine which are supposedly too addictive. That's fine, however what I find crazy is the judgement if I communicate using alcohol therapeutically. Something that works so well and that I don't find addictive. So why don't people talk about therapeutic benefits of alcohol like they do with marijuana. Why is it so taboo?

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#2
I have a small shot glass of anise liquor Anise is a common ingredient in liqueurs and alcohols, such as ouzo and anisette. Anise has many potential health benefits, including:

    Digestive health: Anise can help with bloating, indigestion, heartburn, and low stomach acidity. It's often used in pediatrics to settle the digestive tract. 
Anti-inflammatory: Anise has anti-inflammatory properties. Antimicrobial: Anise has antimicrobial properties. Antioxidant: Anise is a great source of antioxidants. Antispasmodic: Anise can be used as an antispasmodic in high doses. Antiseptic: Anise can be used as an antiseptic in high doses. Expectorant: Anise can be used as an expectorant to increase productive cough. Diuretic: Anise can be used as a diuretic to increase urine flow. Appetite stimulant: Anise can be used as an appetite stimulant. Hormone regulation: Anise can help regulate hormones in females. Depression treatment: Some research suggests that anise seed may help treat depression. Menopause symptom relief: Early research shows that anise can reduce the frequency and severity of hot flashes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricard_(liqueur)

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#3
Because any reasoning behind drinking is seen as an excuse to be a drunk.

You're self medicating with alcohol. That's not the worst thing in the world. It helps you. It sounds almost like a miracle drug for you. I don't see why you'd rather switch to benzos.

Just understand, alcohol is addictive and tolerance can be built up, so you're dancing with the devil and you'd better adhere to a set of rules. One drink a day (or every 4 hours or whatever the schedule is to keep you from losing your mind), period, and if it stops working as well, quit for a week or two, anxiety be damned. Also, understand that you're making a trade off. There are health impacts of alcohol, and you're accepting those as worthwhile for the benefit you get. Look into it, be honest with yourself, and determine whether you're happy with the trade off or not.

People self medicate with all kinds of things, and people take things recreationally. I'm personally not a fan of recreational drug use, I use compounds when they're useful, and I make sure I understand them, dangers and all. I do a good slightly excessive drinking session once every couple of months or so to clear built up stress from my head. I might have a drink or two once in a while between those if I'm having a particularly stressful day. I take an opioid (legal, believe it or not) sometimes for acute extreme pain, and won't take it more than two days in a row, pain be damned, so I time it for maximum impact. I drink a cup of coffee a day, just one, that's it, to medicate for migraines. I could probably get away with once every other day, but it's too delicious and not particularly strongly habit forming. I do manage a nicotine addiction, but nicotine (not cigarettes) does increase my clarity of mind when solving problems, so I don't really mind it.

Everybody self medicates, the distinction is what's socially acceptable, and honestly what's socially acceptable is not taking the reigns of your own health and instead putting it in the hands of professionals. And you're supposed to take drugs that have existed for a decade instead of ones that have existed for thousands of years. You're supposed to outsource understanding how they affect you to professionals. We have an opioid crisis because of that, as part of a larger unhealthy relationship with drugs in general as a society. I'd say, stay clear headed, use your better judgment, and just do what works for you. The taboo is misplaced and detrimental to our society. Don't drink too much or switch to benzos and you'll probably be fine.

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#4
I think people associate “using alcohol therapeutically” with “being dependent on alcohol” which in their experience usually means that person has a huge problem. Take a look at https://www.reddit.com/r/cripplingalcoholism/ for some idea.

Basically a lot of people that are dependent on alcohol ruin their entire lives because of it, and they unfairly assume you are in the same category.

At the same time if a standup comic says they take a shot before getting on stage no one bats an eye.

Idk what to do with that or if it’s helpful but there is my 2c

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#6
I think it is a cultural issue. In parts of Eastern and Southern Europe it is customary to have a shot of spirits in the morning. In many other countries it is normal to have a glass of wine with lunch.

I'm not an alcoholic. Alcoholics go to meetings. I go to parties.

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#10
I think it is taboo because of rather catastrophic impact of an alcoholism on your and your close ones lives. And having to use alcohol to function is getting there.

That being said, people DO talk about therapeutic effects of alcohol. Just recently I have heard an recovering alcoholic talk about that - that it was helping her emotionally. Until it wasn't, until full on addiction kicked in, obviously.

Plus, marihuana is still illegal in many places. That is despite the addiction being less dangerous. If anything alcohol is waaay more tolerated.

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