Amazon cloud outage takes down Netflix, Instagram, Pinterest, & more

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Post by amnigos » Sat, Jun 30, 2012, 4:29 AM UTC

Amazon cloud outage takes down Netflix, Instagram, Pinterest, & more
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Post by meiji » Sat, Jun 30, 2012, 5:34 AM UTC

From the article - "The outage underscores the vulnerabilities of depending on the public cloud versus using your own data centers."

No it doesn't. It underscores the vulnerabilities of not understanding your hosting and accepting the "no outages" slogans of ANY cloud. A single data centre is always susceptible to outages like this, it doesn't matter who owns it. If any of those sites had owned a single data centre that was hit by storm damage, the impact would be the same. I know this is supposed to be the year of the cloud backlash but even so...

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Post by adrianpike » Sat, Jun 30, 2012, 5:45 AM UTC

meiji wrote: post #2

From the article - "The outage underscores the vulnerabilities of depending on the public cloud versus using your own data centers." No it doesn't. It underscores the vulnerabilities of not understanding your hosting and accepting the "no outages" slogans of ANY cloud. A single data centre is always susceptible to outages like this, it doesn't matter who owns it. If any of those sites had owned a single data centre t…

I thought both Heroku & Netflix had fairly robust multi-AZ deployments, so I'm hoping they share any of their learnings from this outage.

Either way, that quote is ridiculous.

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Post by tansey » Sat, Jun 30, 2012, 5:47 AM UTC

adrianpike wrote: post #3

meiji wrote: post #2

From the article - "The outage underscores the vulnerabilities of depending on the public cloud versus using your own data centers." No it doesn't. It underscores the vulnerabilities of not understanding your hosting and accepting the "no outages" slogans of ANY cloud. A single data centre is always susceptible to outages like this, it doesn't matter who owns it. If any of those sites had owned a single data centre t…

I thought both Heroku & Netflix had fairly robust multi-AZ deployments, so I'm hoping they share any of their learnings from this outage. Either way, that quote is ridiculous.

Heroku doesn't. They are on US-East.

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Post by philip1209 » Sat, Jun 30, 2012, 5:57 AM UTC

If Pinterest is down, then there may be a net gain for the internet.

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Post by datasage » Sat, Jun 30, 2012, 6:07 AM UTC

adrianpike wrote: post #3

meiji wrote: post #2

From the article - "The outage underscores the vulnerabilities of depending on the public cloud versus using your own data centers." No it doesn't. It underscores the vulnerabilities of not understanding your hosting and accepting the "no outages" slogans of ANY cloud. A single data centre is always susceptible to outages like this, it doesn't matter who owns it. If any of those sites had owned a single data centre t…

I thought both Heroku & Netflix had fairly robust multi-AZ deployments, so I'm hoping they share any of their learnings from this outage. Either way, that quote is ridiculous.

Netflix does, but considering the time, running out of capacity after loosing a zone might have been more of an issue.

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Post by lubos » Sat, Jun 30, 2012, 6:16 AM UTC

It's interesting how AWS outage didn't take down Amazon.com.

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Post by URSpider94 » Sat, Jun 30, 2012, 6:26 AM UTC

meiji wrote: post #2

From the article - "The outage underscores the vulnerabilities of depending on the public cloud versus using your own data centers." No it doesn't. It underscores the vulnerabilities of not understanding your hosting and accepting the "no outages" slogans of ANY cloud. A single data centre is always susceptible to outages like this, it doesn't matter who owns it. If any of those sites had owned a single data centre t…

Exactly. Anyone running their own data center would be subject to exactly this kind of outage, and wouldn't have access to the many, many resources that cloud providers make available to ensure successful fail-over.

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Post by rdl » Sat, Jun 30, 2012, 6:26 AM UTC

tansey wrote: post #4

adrianpike wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought both Heroku & Netflix had fairly robust multi-AZ deployments, so I'm hoping they share any of their learnings from this outage. Either way, that quote is ridiculous.

Heroku doesn't. They are on US-East.

Heroku is single-AZ within US-East, not even multiple-AZ.

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Post by adrianpike » Sat, Jun 30, 2012, 6:42 AM UTC

datasage wrote: post #6

adrianpike wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought both Heroku & Netflix had fairly robust multi-AZ deployments, so I'm hoping they share any of their learnings from this outage. Either way, that quote is ridiculous.

Netflix does, but considering the time, running out of capacity after loosing a zone might have been more of an issue.

Definitely a possibility - I was actually watching Netflix when my phone started rattling with all the alerts.

I was able to finish out the episode, so their CDN was working for the actual media, but everything else was dead for me.

Another useless anecdote: A coworker was watching on his xbox, and it apparently cut mid-stream for him.