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Re: Realizing the dream of good workplace software

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rip Google wave

The author having to post the right content to the right channel dooms all IMO.

it's all good and well having a web design thread/channel etc but nothing stops someone posting their kids photos except moderation.

curious to see what embracing that is like and only allowing users to post to 1 channel but they can only read an organized contextual threaded steam.

Re: Realizing the dream of good workplace software

#4
I've recently started using Zulip a lot more after the Changelog podcast soft migrated their community from Slack to Zulip. I've also been following along with Zulip's official dev group, and some other community groups.

And it's really good.

I don't mind Slack at work at my fairly small company. It's definitely a distraction, but only a fairly small one.

But coming back to a community chat after a day or three of not paying attention, having that index of topics with new messages, lets me triage what I'm interested in, get up to date on those chats only, and "mark as read" the rest.

Re: Realizing the dream of good workplace software

#7
As someone who absolutely despises what Slack has become, runs an agency, and holds the purchasing power at work, I imagine I'm the target audience for this product. I read this post while nodding along sagely, posted the link in our Slack, then went and looked at the pricing. Campfire is apparently almost triple the cost of Slack. Does it offer triple the value? The product features page suggests not, and even if I'm the one with the purchasing power in this company, I'd still need to get personal buy-in from a lot of people to pull that trigger. It's a shame, but this seems wildly overpriced to me. The article includes this line...

> It kills me every time we lose a customer saying “we hate Slack and Campsite app is amazing. We just can’t deal with the switching costs right now.”

Honestly, if this was priced anywhere near what Slack is, absolutely nobody would be saying that to you. They'd be switching and giving you money. You can effectively translate that to “we hate Slack and Campsite app is amazing. We just can’t justify tripling our costs right now.”

Re: Realizing the dream of good workplace software

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post #7

As someone who absolutely despises what Slack has become, runs an agency, and holds the purchasing power at work, I imagine I'm the target audience for this product. I read this post while nodding along sagely, posted the link in our Slack, then went and looked at the pricing. Campfire is apparently almost triple the cost of Slack. Does it offer triple the value? The product features page suggests not, and even if I'…

Really appreciate the feedback, thank you

Re: Realizing the dream of good workplace software

#9

I have to say, Facebook at work was probably the best thing I ever used for collaboration and knowledge sharing. It was so much better than slack, I never understood why people wanted this chat style for group communication.

I worked at Facebook for 5 years and agree. Though the culture was a big driver too. It’s not like switching to Workplace will magically transform company culture.

Re: Realizing the dream of good workplace software

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I have to say, Facebook at work was probably the best thing I ever used for collaboration and knowledge sharing. It was so much better than slack, I never understood why people wanted this chat style for group communication.

I worked at Facebook for 5 years and agree. Though the culture was a big driver too. It’s not like switching to Workplace will magically transform company culture.

Yeah, me three (I was also there 5 years oddly. Do you enjoy being a traitor, incidentally?).

But I think that the big learning from trying to roll Workplace out to other companies is that it was the FB culture that made it work.

It's also worth noting that even though internal-FB stuff in core FB was absolutely bonkers, it definitely contributed to community formation, as you'd end up seeing that your XFN peeps hobbies/kids etc, so there was a loss there.

Although speaking as someone in EMEA, it was totally, totally worth it.

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