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Re: Nintendo isn't just attacking emulators [video]

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Better source: Comment last week on /r/SBCGaming: https://safereddit.com/r/SBCGaming/comments/1frjcaa/hey_ever...

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It appears that my suspicions are true, and that I am being specifically targeted by Nintendo. My recent Wii U video was taken down and I received a second copyright strike, even though this showcase video was no different than all of the tech demos and reviews I have made on this channel previously. I am still considering a counter claim under fair use, as the video was for educational use, transformative in nature, and had no effect on the market -- it was a demonstration of a console no longer for sale (even the Wii U eShop is closed, so the company itself has no means of earning revenue from Wii U sales). However, I am reluctant to open that can of worms with a multi-billion dollar corporation, as their next step would be to file legal action.

At the very least this means I am going to change how I approach future videos. I will no longer show any Nintendo games on-screen, which is a shame because I love using those games for my hardware demonstrations. I don't know how that will play out when it comes to showing things like ESDE frontend themes that contain Nintendo characters, but for now I am going to focus on actual gameplay. I am also going through the videos I am working on and blurring out any Nintendo game content as a precaution, even innocuous content like NES games. Unfortunately this is going to delay some video releases -- my latest video should be up right now, but instead I have to re-edit and re-upload the video first.

I know this is disappointing news, but with now two strikes on my channel, I don't really have any other choice except to adjust accordingly. Thanks for your understanding.

Re: Nintendo isn't just attacking emulators [video]

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I got a C&D from them 20+ years ago for hosting a ROM site. That's fair enough. I complied. But this seems ridiculous. What if they're plugging an 8-BIT NES to an adapter and into a capture card?

The whole thing seems silly as I don't see it's costing them money. But it's their product they can do what they want.

Re: Nintendo isn't just attacking emulators [video]

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Better source: Comment last week on /r/SBCGaming: https://safereddit.com/r/SBCGaming/comments/1frjcaa/hey_ever... --- It appears that my suspicions are true, and that I am being specifically targeted by Nintendo. My recent Wii U video was taken down and I received a second copyright strike, even though this showcase video was no different than all of the tech demos and reviews I have made on this channel previously.…

Here's the proper link: https://old.reddit.com/r/SBCGaming/comments/1frjcaa/hey_ever...

I don't know what the fuck "safereddit.com" is, but it is an unnecessary layer of obfuscation when the literal source is right there.

Re: Nintendo isn't just attacking emulators [video]

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I got a C&D from them 20+ years ago for hosting a ROM site. That's fair enough. I complied. But this seems ridiculous. What if they're plugging an 8-BIT NES to an adapter and into a capture card? The whole thing seems silly as I don't see it's costing them money. But it's their product they can do what they want.

> But it's their product they can do what they want.

To the extent that we let them. There's no natural rights going on here, so theoretically (if you believe in democracy) we still get to decide how much power foreign companies have.

Re: Nintendo isn't just attacking emulators [video]

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I got a C&D from them 20+ years ago for hosting a ROM site. That's fair enough. I complied. But this seems ridiculous. What if they're plugging an 8-BIT NES to an adapter and into a capture card? The whole thing seems silly as I don't see it's costing them money. But it's their product they can do what they want.

Do they really get to do whatever they like forever with e.g. games and consoles they neither sell nor maintain anymore?

The NES was discontinued in 95, that was nearly 3 decades ago. I don't think they should have the right to prevent hackers to emulate it and share their findings.

Current consoles, yeah maybe, but even then the question would be why they should get a monopoly on the games developed for their platform..

Re: Nintendo isn't just attacking emulators [video]

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Better source: Comment last week on /r/SBCGaming: https://safereddit.com/r/SBCGaming/comments/1frjcaa/hey_ever... --- It appears that my suspicions are true, and that I am being specifically targeted by Nintendo. My recent Wii U video was taken down and I received a second copyright strike, even though this showcase video was no different than all of the tech demos and reviews I have made on this channel previously.…

Here's the proper link: https://old.reddit.com/r/SBCGaming/comments/1frjcaa/hey_ever... I don't know what the fuck "safereddit.com" is, but it is an unnecessary layer of obfuscation when the literal source is right there.

Safereddit looks like a website that implemented a private front end called redlib:

https://github.com/redlib-org/redlib

Agree that we don’t need to add a layer of obfuscation but this seems to be a way to reduce telemetry captured by Reddit.

Re: Nintendo isn't just attacking emulators [video]

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I got a C&D from them 20+ years ago for hosting a ROM site. That's fair enough. I complied. But this seems ridiculous. What if they're plugging an 8-BIT NES to an adapter and into a capture card? The whole thing seems silly as I don't see it's costing them money. But it's their product they can do what they want.

Do they really get to do whatever they like forever with e.g. games and consoles they neither sell nor maintain anymore? The NES was discontinued in 95, that was nearly 3 decades ago. I don't think they should have the right to prevent hackers to emulate it and share their findings. Current consoles, yeah maybe, but even then the question would be why they should get a monopoly on the games developed for their platfo…

> I don't think they should have the right to prevent hackers to emulate it and share their findings

They do not. Emulation is legal. However it is worth considering that:

0) NES Classic was sold as recently as 2018

1) Nintendo currently rent out NES games as part of Switch online

2) Copyright law ("lifetime" + 70 years) is on Nintendo's side for games themselves

3) Fair use can be a defense against infringement in some cases

4) Although it might or might not be fair use, I feel no guilt downloading Super Mario Bros 3 for an emulator since I've purchased it at least ten times by now, own multiple copies of the game on physical media, and am currently renting it through Switch online.

On the Sony/PlayStation side, I own a PS Classic, which actually runs a version of an open source PS1 emulator PCSX, amusingly enough. (I'm a bit disappointed that it's not a descendant of Connectix's emulator though.[1])

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Computer_Entertainment,_I....

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