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Amazon Layoffs: Tech Firm to Cut 14,000 Manager Positions by 2025, Says Report

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Re: Amazon Layoffs: Tech Firm to Cut 14,000 Manager Positions by 2025, Says Report

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Imagine the bottom 14000 managers from Amazon on the loose getting jobs elsewhere and spreading the worst parts of its culture around in other companies. Effectively unleashes a biological virus at other FAANGs and smaller companies. Good job Amazon.

Re: Amazon Layoffs: Tech Firm to Cut 14,000 Manager Positions by 2025, Says Report

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Imagine the bottom 14000 managers from Amazon on the loose getting jobs elsewhere and spreading the worst parts of its culture around in other companies. Effectively unleashes a biological virus at other FAANGs and smaller companies. Good job Amazon.

To the contrary, the ex-Amazon managers I’ve worked with explicitly tell me they avoid implementing ideas from Amazon in terms of management.

Re: Amazon Layoffs: Tech Firm to Cut 14,000 Manager Positions by 2025, Says Report

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Imagine the bottom 14000 managers from Amazon on the loose getting jobs elsewhere and spreading the worst parts of its culture around in other companies. Effectively unleashes a biological virus at other FAANGs and smaller companies. Good job Amazon.

To the contrary, the ex-Amazon managers I’ve worked with explicitly tell me they avoid implementing ideas from Amazon in terms of management.

Yes. Ex-Amazon here. The part where I horse-trade putting engineers on PIP so I can keep my UAR up -- I don't spread that to other companies because it's toxic as fuck and leads to my friends on H1Bs getting deported.

Re: Amazon Layoffs: Tech Firm to Cut 14,000 Manager Positions by 2025, Says Report

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> Jassy also introduced a "bureaucracy tipline" that allows employees to report unnecessary procedures that hinder their work, according to the report.

Would anyone actually use that? For example if you were complaining about the bureaucracy of dealing with your manager's process, you might face retaliation. Or worse, a lot of the bureaucracy may actually be due to the edicts of higher up executives.

Or is this just a stunt to virtue signal efficiency?

Re: Amazon Layoffs: Tech Firm to Cut 14,000 Manager Positions by 2025, Says Report

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> Jassy also introduced a "bureaucracy tipline" that allows employees to report unnecessary procedures that hinder their work, according to the report. Would anyone actually use that? For example if you were complaining about the bureaucracy of dealing with your manager's process, you might face retaliation. Or worse, a lot of the bureaucracy may actually be due to the edicts of higher up executives. Or is this just…

Is there more info on how this "bureaucracy tipline" works?

More often in big companies, the processes keeps getting bigger and more convoluted as time passes by.

Usually the change in process is approved by higher ups, but they might not have full visibility of the process as they're not the ones who are going through these processes (people below them are).

Re: Amazon Layoffs: Tech Firm to Cut 14,000 Manager Positions by 2025, Says Report

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Imagine the bottom 14000 managers from Amazon on the loose getting jobs elsewhere and spreading the worst parts of its culture around in other companies. Effectively unleashes a biological virus at other FAANGs and smaller companies. Good job Amazon.

What makes you think they're really the bottom?

Re: Amazon Layoffs: Tech Firm to Cut 14,000 Manager Positions by 2025, Says Report

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Sigh! 105K managers currently and with the 14K cuts it will still be around 91K. As a manager myself, I fully understand and appreciate the value they bring but not matter how large your workforce having 90K+ managers is insanity. Hopefully they are focussing on the middle management and not first-line managers.
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