Mozilla's privacy preserving ad attribution: The future or an oxymoron?
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Re: Mozilla's privacy preserving ad attribution: The future or an oxymoron?
#2I'm not interested. I just block ads altogether. and I never make any exceptions. I don't believe in this model anymore. The advertising industry has lost my complete respect with the things they've pulled in the past and are still doing.
I turned off PPA of course but I don't see ads anyway so there's nothing to attribute.
Re: Mozilla's privacy preserving ad attribution: The future or an oxymoron?
#3> At some level, ad attribution is necessary.
My man, let me introduce you to .. well ... all years before 2000-ish. TV ads has no tracking pixels, and radio ads had no utm strings...
Somehow advertisers ... lived?
Re: Mozilla's privacy preserving ad attribution: The future or an oxymoron?
#4This is happening because competition amongst browsers is so low. Fund your favorite alternative to solve the problem for good.
Servo would be the most ironic.
Re: Mozilla's privacy preserving ad attribution: The future or an oxymoron?
#5> At some level, ad attribution is necessary. My man, let me introduce you to .. well ... all years before 2000-ish. TV ads has no tracking pixels, and radio ads had no utm strings... Somehow advertisers ... lived?
Automatic "what channel is TV tuned" telemetry has been around since 1970s AFAICT from
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nielsen_Media_Research#Measuri...
Re: Mozilla's privacy preserving ad attribution: The future or an oxymoron?
#6This is happening because competition amongst browsers is so low. Fund your favorite alternative to solve the problem for good. Servo would be the most ironic.
no this is happening because any project that succeed (e.g. Mozilla) is corrupted to the core by goggle's money.
brave haven't even for off the ground and is already dealing with them
what we need is decent leadership. not million dollar salary presidents. maybe if emacs had a seat at w3c :)
Re: Mozilla's privacy preserving ad attribution: The future or an oxymoron?
#7> At some level, ad attribution is necessary. My man, let me introduce you to .. well ... all years before 2000-ish. TV ads has no tracking pixels, and radio ads had no utm strings... Somehow advertisers ... lived?
Automatic "what channel is TV tuned" telemetry has been around since 1970s AFAICT from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nielsen_Media_Research#Measuri...
And it had to be installed separately if you wanted to participate.
Re: Mozilla's privacy preserving ad attribution: The future or an oxymoron?
#8This is happening because competition amongst browsers is so low. Fund your favorite alternative to solve the problem for good. Servo would be the most ironic.
no this is happening because any project that succeed (e.g. Mozilla) is corrupted to the core by goggle's money. brave haven't even for off the ground and is already dealing with them what we need is decent leadership. not million dollar salary presidents. maybe if emacs had a seat at w3c :)
The reason they take the money is because they need the money.
The reason they need the money is because they need so many employees.
The reason they need so many employees is because it takes so much work to implement a modern web browser.
The reason it takes so much work to implement a modern web browser is because the web has sprawling Living Standards. And users expect not just correctness but highly optimized jit.
Re: Mozilla's privacy preserving ad attribution: The future or an oxymoron?
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no this is happening because any project that succeed (e.g. Mozilla) is corrupted to the core by goggle's money. brave haven't even for off the ground and is already dealing with them what we need is decent leadership. not million dollar salary presidents. maybe if emacs had a seat at w3c :)
The reason they take the money is because they need the money. The reason they need the money is because they need so many employees. The reason they need so many employees is because it takes so much work to implement a modern web browser. The reason it takes so much work to implement a modern web browser is because the web has sprawling Living Standards . And users expect not just correctness but highly optimized j…
for Mozilla thats not correct. and i think you know it but might have skin in the game?
if honestly misguided, go ahead and take a look on where Mozilla waste money. it's hard to parse on their reports but it's all there.
then see how much goes into actual browser vs how much they got by donations and revenue of the fund. the fat is not the browser.
also they would still be getting user donation if they didn't go full dark side and burned that bridge.
Re: Mozilla's privacy preserving ad attribution: The future or an oxymoron?
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
The reason they take the money is because they need the money. The reason they need the money is because they need so many employees. The reason they need so many employees is because it takes so much work to implement a modern web browser. The reason it takes so much work to implement a modern web browser is because the web has sprawling Living Standards . And users expect not just correctness but highly optimized j…
for Mozilla thats not correct. and i think you know it but might have skin in the game? if honestly misguided, go ahead and take a look on where Mozilla waste money. it's hard to parse on their reports but it's all there. then see how much goes into actual browser vs how much they got by donations and revenue of the fund. the fat is not the browser. also they would still be getting user donation if they didn't go ful…
If it's hard to parse why don't you tell me? How does their budget break down?