GraalPy – A high-performance embeddable Python 3 runtime for Java
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#3Took a little digging to find that it targets 3.11. Didn’t see anything about a GIL. If you’re a Python person, don’t click the quick start link unless you want to look at some xml.
Re: GraalPy – A high-performance embeddable Python 3 runtime for Java
#4Took a little digging to find that it targets 3.11. Didn’t see anything about a GIL. If you’re a Python person, don’t click the quick start link unless you want to look at some xml.
Python implementations naturally don't have any GIL in regards to JVM or CLR variants, there is no such thing on those platforms.
YAML and JSON have both tried to replicate the XML tooling experience, only worse.
Schemas, comments, parsing and schema conversions tools.
Re: GraalPy – A high-performance embeddable Python 3 runtime for Java
#5DuckDB is not currently a supported package, but Pandas and matplotlib are which is good. If DuckDB and Polars were supported and if they ran well, I suspect many data jobs could benefit.
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#6Took a little digging to find that it targets 3.11. Didn’t see anything about a GIL. If you’re a Python person, don’t click the quick start link unless you want to look at some xml.
I mean, if you're trying to embed one language in another, please don't be surprised when the quickstart guide has a couple of examples containing a few lines of code written for the embedding language and its package manager(s).
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#7Took a little digging to find that it targets 3.11. Didn’t see anything about a GIL. If you’re a Python person, don’t click the quick start link unless you want to look at some xml.
Happily, you can ignore the Maven XML and use Gradle instead, it's the next codeblock on the page, after "or":
implementation("org.graalvm.polyglot:polyglot:24.1.0")
implementation("org.graalvm.polyglot:python:24.1.0")Re: GraalPy – A high-performance embeddable Python 3 runtime for Java
#8Took a little digging to find that it targets 3.11. Didn’t see anything about a GIL. If you’re a Python person, don’t click the quick start link unless you want to look at some xml.
Python implementations naturally don't have any GIL in regards to JVM or CLR variants, there is no such thing on those platforms. YAML and JSON have both tried to replicate the XML tooling experience, only worse. Schemas, comments, parsing and schema conversions tools.
I think GraalPython does have a GIL, see https://github.com/oracle/graalpython/blob/master/docs/contr... - and if by "there is no such thing on those platforms" you mean JVM/CLR not having a GIL, C also does not have a GIL but CPython does.
Re: GraalPy – A high-performance embeddable Python 3 runtime for Java
#9Took a little digging to find that it targets 3.11. Didn’t see anything about a GIL. If you’re a Python person, don’t click the quick start link unless you want to look at some xml.
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#10I guess what makes Python interesting right now is the integration with ML toolchains, CUDA, Metal/MLX, pytorch, tensorflow, LLM encoders/decoders, etc. more than Python the language. But can GraalVM run those codes meaningfully when Python is merely used for glue code with the important bits implemented in native code?