Intel lost the Sony Playstation business to AMD
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Re: Intel lost the Sony Playstation business to AMD
#2It's a little vague what the "6 chips" would have been. CPU obviously. Probably some southbridge equivalent, but then what? A NIC? Was Intel going to supply the graphics chip too? That would have been a real turnaround for their GPU division.
Re: Intel lost the Sony Playstation business to AMD
#3It's a little vague what the "6 chips" would have been. CPU obviously. Probably some southbridge equivalent, but then what? A NIC? Was Intel going to supply the graphics chip too? That would have been a real turnaround for their GPU division.
There wasn't 6 chips. I believe it refers to "PlayStation 6", the version that comes after "PlayStation 5".
I think the main thing Intel was competing for was CPU + GPU given they have the new Xe graphics architecture which is decent. But I guess they could have just gone after the CPU with NVIDIA likely then supplying the GPU as they did in the first Xbox.
Re: Intel lost the Sony Playstation business to AMD
#4It's a little vague what the "6 chips" would have been. CPU obviously. Probably some southbridge equivalent, but then what? A NIC? Was Intel going to supply the graphics chip too? That would have been a real turnaround for their GPU division.
There wasn't 6 chips. I believe it refers to "PlayStation 6", the version that comes after "PlayStation 5". I think the main thing Intel was competing for was CPU + GPU given they have the new Xe graphics architecture which is decent. But I guess they could have just gone after the CPU with NVIDIA likely then supplying the GPU as they did in the first Xbox.
Oh derp. You are right. I totally misread that.
Re: Intel lost the Sony Playstation business to AMD
#5Maybe I'm misinformed, but I could never see Intel getting this contract.
AMD has extensive experience with high-performing APUs, something Intel, at least in my memory, does not have. The chips on modern high-end consoles are supposed to compete with GPUs, not with integrated graphics. Does Intel even have any offerings that would indicate they could accomplish this? Intel has ARC, which presumably could be put in a custom "APU"; however, their track record with that is not stellar.
Re: Intel lost the Sony Playstation business to AMD
#6Not sure the title has the right framing.
It's hard to compete with AMD which is the only tech company to offer both x86 and a solid GPU technology that comes with it.
On top of that you have backwards compatibility woes and the uncertainty around Intel being able to deliver on its foundry.
All in all, this win would've been a great deal for Intel's foundry in PR, but money wise those were never going to be huge sums.
Re: Intel lost the Sony Playstation business to AMD
#7I wonder if Sony having to adapt their DRM/platform security strategy into Intel-world would've introduced a lot of friction.
This kind of thing is probably part of the motivation behind Intel splitting out a "Partner Security Engine."
Re: Intel lost the Sony Playstation business to AMD
#8Maybe I'm misinformed, but I could never see Intel getting this contract. AMD has extensive experience with high-performing APUs, something Intel, at least in my memory, does not have. The chips on modern high-end consoles are supposed to compete with GPUs, not with integrated graphics. Does Intel even have any offerings that would indicate they could accomplish this? Intel has ARC, which presumably could be put in a…
Ditto. AMD also reliably delivered on CPUs for the past 2 iterations of both Xbox and PS. AMD feels like the only choice for consoles at this point.
Re: Intel lost the Sony Playstation business to AMD
#9Maybe I'm misinformed, but I could never see Intel getting this contract. AMD has extensive experience with high-performing APUs, something Intel, at least in my memory, does not have. The chips on modern high-end consoles are supposed to compete with GPUs, not with integrated graphics. Does Intel even have any offerings that would indicate they could accomplish this? Intel has ARC, which presumably could be put in a…
Intel has Battlemage [1]. Presumably that would be the basis of the console APU. Their iGPU performance is actually getting good now. [2]
[1] https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/graphics-cards/embargo-no-p...
[2] https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/lunar-lake-i...
Re: Intel lost the Sony Playstation business to AMD
#10Maybe I'm misinformed, but I could never see Intel getting this contract. AMD has extensive experience with high-performing APUs, something Intel, at least in my memory, does not have. The chips on modern high-end consoles are supposed to compete with GPUs, not with integrated graphics. Does Intel even have any offerings that would indicate they could accomplish this? Intel has ARC, which presumably could be put in a…
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