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Re: Wikipedia founder steps in to help UK hacker

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A Home Office spokesman said: "We have effective, fair and balanced extradition arrangements with the US [...] People who have committed serious offences such as murder, rape, other sex crimes and fraud [...]

Good to know. Running a search engine can be compared to murder, rape, etc...

Re: Wikipedia founder steps in to help UK hacker

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This is shocking and as a UK citizen angers me greatly, however I have to say this guy doesn't seem too smart.

Firstly, building a website (presumably with the domain registered under his name) like this in the current legal climate is basically asking for trouble. Especially hosting it in Sweden (where the TBP was).

Secondly , in the interview he asked the Police if he should get a solicitor, and decided not to get one because he might have to wait a couple of hours? WTF?

If you are arrested by the police and possibly being charged with an imprison-able offence (or really any offence) of course you should get a solicitor , why would this even be a question?

Re: Wikipedia founder steps in to help UK hacker

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post #3

A Home Office spokesman said: "We have effective, fair and balanced extradition arrangements with the US [...] People who have committed serious offences such as murder, rape, other sex crimes and fraud [...] Good to know. Running a search engine can be compared to murder, rape, etc...

When I wrote to my MP (who simply forwarded the letter on to the Home Office), I got the same response.

Re: Wikipedia founder steps in to help UK hacker

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This is shocking and as a UK citizen angers me greatly, however I have to say this guy doesn't seem too smart. Firstly, building a website (presumably with the domain registered under his name) like this in the current legal climate is basically asking for trouble. Especially hosting it in Sweden (where the TBP was). Secondly , in the interview he asked the Police if he should get a solicitor, and decided not to get…

Because he was a scared kid who wanted this to go away, and the police told him it would if he just answer their questions and not wait the "2 hours" for the lawyer.

He made a mistake. He should not be extradited and imprisoned in a foreign country for a decade for posting links on the internet.

Re: Wikipedia founder steps in to help UK hacker

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This is shocking and as a UK citizen angers me greatly, however I have to say this guy doesn't seem too smart. Firstly, building a website (presumably with the domain registered under his name) like this in the current legal climate is basically asking for trouble. Especially hosting it in Sweden (where the TBP was). Secondly , in the interview he asked the Police if he should get a solicitor, and decided not to get…

I'm completely guessing here, but isn't there some sort of law or regulation that the police are required to give you truthful information regarding your right to legal representation?

As such, and while this wouldn't take away from the stupidity of not getting a solicitor involved, maybe he asked the question not because he wanted an answer, but because he thought there was a chance the policeman might say "no, you don't need one of those" and create a problem for the prosecution?

Re: Wikipedia founder steps in to help UK hacker

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post #6

This is shocking and as a UK citizen angers me greatly, however I have to say this guy doesn't seem too smart. Firstly, building a website (presumably with the domain registered under his name) like this in the current legal climate is basically asking for trouble. Especially hosting it in Sweden (where the TBP was). Secondly , in the interview he asked the Police if he should get a solicitor, and decided not to get…

Because he was a scared kid who wanted this to go away, and the police told him it would if he just answer their questions and not wait the "2 hours" for the lawyer. He made a mistake. He should not be extradited and imprisoned in a foreign country for a decade for posting links on the internet.

Agreed, but this is standard tactics for the police.

The police (particularly the met) are out to get an easy prosecution and fulfill their statistical requirements rather than fair and honest justice. They will pretend to be your friend and offer you an easy way out that doesn't exist to do this.

The best thing you can do is say nothing at all. Shut your gob and refuse to say a word. Everything should be replied to with "no comment".

Re: Wikipedia founder steps in to help UK hacker

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post #7

This is shocking and as a UK citizen angers me greatly, however I have to say this guy doesn't seem too smart. Firstly, building a website (presumably with the domain registered under his name) like this in the current legal climate is basically asking for trouble. Especially hosting it in Sweden (where the TBP was). Secondly , in the interview he asked the Police if he should get a solicitor, and decided not to get…

I'm completely guessing here, but isn't there some sort of law or regulation that the police are required to give you truthful information regarding your right to legal representation? As such, and while this wouldn't take away from the stupidity of not getting a solicitor involved, maybe he asked the question not because he wanted an answer, but because he thought there was a chance the policeman might say "no, you…

I'm not sure of the specifics of the law, but if you ask for a solicitor they are not allowed to refuse or tell you that you are not entitled to one.

They are allowed however to try and sway you away from the idea.

Even if he was trying such a trick , the fact is that he didn't request one.

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