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How the Higgs field gives mass to elementary particles

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Re: How the Higgs field gives mass to elementary particles

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Layman trying to wrap my head around this: the Higgs field causes other fields to stiffen by giving them a resonant frequency, with higher frequencies meaning more mass.

keep in mind that its against the other whole mass of universe thing doing that same thing that also contributes to a mass reading.

Re: How the Higgs field gives mass to elementary particles

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I studied wave mechanics in college, but the origin of mass didn't click for me until several years later (and in fact I don't believe it was every brought up in the context of wave mechanics, which seems like a problem in retrospect). The conceptualization that worked for me is this:

The normal wave equation is (ignoring constant factors like mass and propagation velocity):

d^2/dt^2 f(x,t) = d^2/dx^2 f(x,t)

=

This says "if a point in the field is lower than its neighbors, it will be accelerated upwards. If a point in the field is higher than its neighbors, it will be accelerated downwards." This equation is the lowest-order description of most wave phenomena like sound waves, water surface waves, EM waves, etc. and it's usually pretty accurate.

If you look for solutions to this differential equation, you can get

f(x,t) = exp(i * w * (x±t))

w is the frequency of the wave

This tells you that the frequency and wavenumber of waves is determined by the same parameter (w), so they are proportional to each other

Now, what if we add a restoring force to this equation? This is a force that pulls the value of the field towards zero.

d^2/dt^2 f(x,t) = d^2/dx^2 f(x,t) - M^2 f(x,t)

M is just a parameter that tells you the strength of the restoring force. The force increases as the field gets farther from zero, like a spring.

Now, solutions to the equation look instead like

f(x,t) = exp(i*k*x ± i*w*t)

Where w^2 = k^2 + M^2

(or something like that, I need to re-derive this on paper, just going off memory, but I think if you plug it in it should work)

Notice that now, if you have a spacial frequency k, your temporal frequency is actually higher. In fact, if your spacial frequency k is 0 (corresponding to a stationary wave), your temporal frequency is still M!

This is what mass is. Having a non-zero frequency even if the wave is the same everywhere in space (which corresponds to no movement)

A field with no restoring force is e.g. the EM field, so photons are massless. The rate at which they oscillate in time is the same rate at which they oscillate in space. A massive particle has a restoring force, so its temporal frequency is higher than its spacial frequency.

In physics, this equation is often reordered like this:

d^2/dt^2 f(x,t) - d^2/dx^2 f(x,t) = - M^2 f(x,t)

(d^2/dt^2 - d^2/dx^2) f(x,t) = - M^2 f(x,t)

(d^2/dt^2 - d^2/dx^2) f(x,t) + M^2 f(x,t) = 0

◻ f(x,t) + M^2 f(x,t) = 0

(the d'alembert operator)

(◻ + M^2) f(x,t) = 0

Again, this is ignoring constant factors like c, h, etc.

The above equation is nice because it's relativistically invariant. The d'alembert operator is the contraction of the 4-momentup operator with itself, p^u p_u. This is a concept worth studying - tells you a lot about what mass, energy, velocity, and momentum actually are in a general sense

Re: How the Higgs field gives mass to elementary particles

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post #5

I studied wave mechanics in college, but the origin of mass didn't click for me until several years later (and in fact I don't believe it was every brought up in the context of wave mechanics, which seems like a problem in retrospect). The conceptualization that worked for me is this: The normal wave equation is (ignoring constant factors like mass and propagation velocity): d^2/dt^2 f(x,t) = d^2/dx^2 f(x,t) = This s…

> The rate at which they oscillate in time is the same rate at which they oscillate in space.

Wouldn't it be the opposite, that they do not oscillate in time at all so that they oscillate in space as rapidly as possible (since, as we know, time doesn't pass for photons)? And stationary particles don't oscillate in space, so they oscillate in time as rapidly as possible. Or are you using "oscillate" in a different sense here?

Re: How the Higgs field gives mass to elementary particles

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So to conceptualize the difference between fields with and without restoring forces, I imagine that, for a field that doesn't have a restoring force, the medium itself can move permanently. For example if you have just a bunch of ball bearings lying on the surface of a table, you can cause a wave to go through the balls by hitting one. One bumps into the next, which bumps into the next, etc. There's no restoring force, so the wave is moving through the balls, and the balls are actually moving into a new position and they stay there.

Compare that to a water wave, where gravity is trying to restore the particles to a "flat" position in space. If you cause a wave in water, the medium will return to the space it occupied before through the restoring force, even as the wave travels through it.

Is this really how it works, so that e.g. the EM field itself can move in space, whereas e.g. the electron field cannot move in space, it's "pinned" in some sense by the Higgs field?

Re: How the Higgs field gives mass to elementary particles

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I studied wave mechanics in college, but the origin of mass didn't click for me until several years later (and in fact I don't believe it was every brought up in the context of wave mechanics, which seems like a problem in retrospect). The conceptualization that worked for me is this: The normal wave equation is (ignoring constant factors like mass and propagation velocity): d^2/dt^2 f(x,t) = d^2/dx^2 f(x,t) = This s…

> The rate at which they oscillate in time is the same rate at which they oscillate in space. Wouldn't it be the opposite, that they do not oscillate in time at all so that they oscillate in space as rapidly as possible (since, as we know, time doesn't pass for photons)? And stationary particles don't oscillate in space, so they oscillate in time as rapidly as possible. Or are you using "oscillate" in a different sen…

Photons have their spacial frequency directly locked to their temporal frequency.

Temporal frequency f

Spacial frequency k

f = k * c

Dimensional analysis: t^-1 = l^-1 * l t^-1

Re: How the Higgs field gives mass to elementary particles

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As a lay person, I found that a clear and understandable explanation, which in my experience suggests it is a wild wild over simplification - but enjoyable nonetheless

A question for the more expert amongst you. Is the Higgs field unique in its interaction with other fields, or are there other similar fields which similarly change the way that other fields (and associated particles) behave?

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