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Extremist settlers rapidly seizing West Bank land

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Re: Extremist settlers rapidly seizing West Bank land

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I once believed a two state solution would be inevitable. Decades later and I have come to accept that the West Bank will be incorporated into Israel. If you see the maps over time the West Bank has been split into multiple small pockets of refugee sections. Without external pressures nothing will change and the politics on the issue have become toxic in the US.

Hopefully I’m wrong. But tides have shifted in the opposite direction.

Re: Extremist settlers rapidly seizing West Bank land

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> A former commander of the Israeli army in the West Bank, Avi Mizrahi, says most settlers are law-abiding Israeli citizens, but he does admit the existence of outposts makes violence more likely. “Whenever you put outposts illegally in the area, it brings tensions with the Palestinians… living in the same area,” he says.

What a curious comment. People living in "illegal outposts" are "law-abiding citizens"?

This attitude is a big chunk at the root of the entire conflict.

Re: Extremist settlers rapidly seizing West Bank land

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Both sides breed like rabbits in a territory that they believe God wants them to occupy. In biblical times, the winners killed the men and sold the women and children of the losers into slavery. Why anyone thinks this will turn out differently despite high minded laws escapes me

Re: Extremist settlers rapidly seizing West Bank land

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post #5

> A former commander of the Israeli army in the West Bank, Avi Mizrahi, says most settlers are law-abiding Israeli citizens, but he does admit the existence of outposts makes violence more likely. “Whenever you put outposts illegally in the area, it brings tensions with the Palestinians… living in the same area,” he says. What a curious comment. People living in "illegal outposts" are "law-abiding citizens"? This att…

Well they're just people living their lives. A person is not illegal or a criminal just because of where they choose to live, surely.

Re: Extremist settlers rapidly seizing West Bank land

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I once believed a two state solution would be inevitable. Decades later and I have come to accept that the West Bank will be incorporated into Israel. If you see the maps over time the West Bank has been split into multiple small pockets of refugee sections. Without external pressures nothing will change and the politics on the issue have become toxic in the US. Hopefully I’m wrong. But tides have shifted in the oppo…

Why stop at West Bank? Looks like there's only one state remaining at this point.

Re: Extremist settlers rapidly seizing West Bank land

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> A former commander of the Israeli army in the West Bank, Avi Mizrahi, says most settlers are law-abiding Israeli citizens, but he does admit the existence of outposts makes violence more likely. “Whenever you put outposts illegally in the area, it brings tensions with the Palestinians… living in the same area,” he says. What a curious comment. People living in "illegal outposts" are "law-abiding citizens"? This att…

Well they're just people living their lives. A person is not illegal or a criminal just because of where they choose to live, surely.

If they’re participating in illegal activity, isn’t that the definition of a criminal?

Re: Extremist settlers rapidly seizing West Bank land

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> A former commander of the Israeli army in the West Bank, Avi Mizrahi, says most settlers are law-abiding Israeli citizens, but he does admit the existence of outposts makes violence more likely. “Whenever you put outposts illegally in the area, it brings tensions with the Palestinians… living in the same area,” he says. What a curious comment. People living in "illegal outposts" are "law-abiding citizens"? This att…

Well they're just people living their lives. A person is not illegal or a criminal just because of where they choose to live, surely.

Let us continue this conversation after I set up my trailer in your back garden, and me and ten of my friends decide to just live our lives there.

Aside from the fact that it's explicitly illegal under law, even in abstract general terms your comment makes no sense.

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