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What do people do with thier pictures? (modern life, media and backing up)

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What do people do with thier pictures? (modern life, media and backing up)

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Post by bbyford »

It struck me when chatting with my mother in-law that whether you're on an Android or iOS phone you may still be pushed into purcahsing more sych storage to keep your photos/videos backedup or simply give yourself more space...

For years now (as an iOS and Mac user) I've used Image Capture to download and free up my photos from my phone and backing them up on a RAID harddrive.... I'm probably not the norm here... So what do people do to keep media, free up space and make it easy (thinking of the older generation)... ideally without paying for the privilege?

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#2

Post by nicbou »

I use Google Photos because it's convenient and makes sharing with friends really easy.

On top of that, I use Syncthing to keep photos synchronised across multiple devices that I fully own. I don't want to lose all of my photos because Google gets more evil or indifferent than it already is. It's already really hard to download all your photos.

It works really well, but it's a bit of a hassle to set up.

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Post by bbyford »

confusedalex wrote: post #3

I selfhost my photos with immich[1]. The drives are mirrored via zfs and get backuped daily to borgbase[2] with restic[3] [1] https://immich.app/ [2] https://www.borgbase.com/ [3] https://restic.net/

wowza! nice. I wonder what the version of that for a granny is?!

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Post by solardev »

I pay for additional Google storage because it works, it's easy, it's integrated, and, it's never failed. If you move your mother-in-law to some homebrewed DIY system, it will prob fail within a few years or when she upgrades her phone, and she'll be pissed she lost some of her precious pictures and wished she just kept paying instead.

The cost of just paying iCloud or Gdrive is so minimal (like $3-$10/mo?) that it's well worth it for regular users just for the peace of mind. Nothing you come up with at home will be anywhere as easy to use, or as reliable over the years, or work so seamlessly across all their devices, or make simple edits possible and sharing with their friends easy.

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#6

Post by tcbawo »

I use Google Photo because it’s easy. However, the rate of recording has outpaced my ability to stay organized. I appreciate the memory highlights and throwbacks, but I think we are missing out on leveraging technology in this space. The lack of openness, portability, and permanence is disheartening.

Digital photos have an incredible opportunity to attach context to memories — not just time and place, but feelings and emotions. But, so far, this has been severely lacking. Imagine parents or grandparents being able to attach stories about a childhood event, or to annotate a travel journal. If such things are possible today, what are the chances they will be available and discoverable in twenty or fifty years?

Not many people consider the discoverability that a book of old photo prints offers over a digital library. To have a universal and timeless reach, there needs to be more openness and interoperability.

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#7

Post by al_borland »

I’m lazy, so I pay $2.99/month to not think about it. All my photos I’ve taken in the last 25 years are available on my phone and laptop.

That said, I do have some minor worries about something going wrong down the line. I’ve been thinking I should export everything and back it up to my NAS, and keep up on that going forward. But that keeps becoming a “tomorrow” task. There is probably a way to automate this with no cost, but I haven’t been bothered to try and look into it.

Storage management and backups are hard for the average user. It’s the #1 issue I deal with for both my mom and sister. It requires regular action on their part to get things off the phone, if they don’t want to pay, and backups also require a regular action of plugging in an external drive (because they keep unplugging it and don’t want to pay for cloud backup). I have considered paying the $2.99 for them, just so I don’t have to get the call of them crying because they think they lost all their pictures. The last time I got one of those calls it just started with my sister crying for a full minute, I was bracing to hear that one of my parents just died, and it was a picture backup issue, because her phone wouldn’t charge anymore and she thought she was going to lose all her kids baby pictures. I don’t know how it isn’t worth $2.99 to not have that feeling, if someone is unwilling or unable to do the regular maintenance to keep things backed up and storage free.

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#8

Post by knckl »

I should start with the fact that a) I am paranoid about data. b) I don't trust any of the public cloud providers. Not in the sense to keep all my data with any of them and not having a backup copy elsewhere.

At the center of my set up is a Synology NAS (2x 8TB RAID 1). I use it as a personal "google drive" via the Synology Drive app.

The Synology Drive app is installed on my phone (as well as on my wife's) and is automagically and continuously backing up all of our photos and videos to the NAS.

I use Office 365 for email. The NAS is backing up everything from O365 nightly.

We have all of our important docs scanned and stored in the NAS. All my self-hosted apps (Gitea, Bitwarden, Jenkins, etc) are backing up nightly to the NAS.

All data from the NAS is then backed up to three locations:

1. Wasabi (S3-like storage) 2. Hetzner Storage Box (via rsync) 3. Once a year back up to an external HDD

The data is client-side encrypted before it leaves the NAS to any of the backup targets.

The NAS acts as a DHCP and DNS server at home, which is not related to backups, but still super cool to have everything in one box.

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#9

Post by knckl »

knckl wrote: post #8

I should start with the fact that a) I am paranoid about data. b) I don't trust any of the public cloud providers. Not in the sense to keep all my data with any of them and not having a backup copy elsewhere. At the center of my set up is a Synology NAS (2x 8TB RAID 1). I use it as a personal "google drive" via the Synology Drive app. The Synology Drive app is installed on my phone (as well as on my wife's) and is au…

I forgot to say that I also pay for 2TB iCloud storage so I don't have to remove any of my photos from iCloud. I do actually enjoy iCloud, but I don't trust them as sole owners of my data.
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